CongletonRam

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It would be foolish to suddenly think everything is rosey again after one performance.
But if tonight was anything to go by then maybe Warne has got the ability to change, adapt and improve us. That was the first time I think I’ve really enjoyed watching us this season. Let’s kick on now and go on a run! 🐏

I’ve been waiting for someone to come on here and rub the ‘Warne Out’ brigade noses in it.
I think it may miss the point.
I actually WANT Derby to win, I would love Paul Warne to be successful, I would want Darth Vader with the emperor as his number 2 to be successful if it meant getting back to the Premier League.
But WANTING someone to be successful and BELIEVING they will are two different things.
If I go to the dentist with a toothache, I WANT them to tell me it’s okay and I can go home and eat a family size packet of peanut M&M’s, but I BELIEVE they’ll most probably tell me I need a filling.
So, am I happy Derby won tonight, absolutely, am I happy Warne won, completely, do I think we’ve turned a corner, we’ll have to wait and see, but I pray we have.
So, whether you’re in the In, Out or Shake-it-all-about camp, I feel we all want the same thing, and that’s a successful Derby County that plays the kind of football we saw tonight.
If this is the launchpad for something better than we’ve been served this season, then I’ll be the first to start the ‘Warne In In’ thread 😎

That would go firmly against his agenda.

@RoyMac5 what was funny about my earlier post? Are you that entrenched in your views that you genuinely cannot bring yourself to give Warne even the slightest bit of credit in isolation for tonight’s performance? 
I’m not excusing the season, or the falling away towards the end of last season, but surely Warne got something right tonight? 

You can have whatever view you choose, but i am of the opinion that any fan that advocates sacking Warne at this current time is doing so from their heart and not their head.
It's something of a mute point anyway, as the owner fortunately sees things as I do. In his position; it would be club suicide to remove PW.
 

You can have whatever view you choose, but i am of the opinion that any fan that advocates sacking Warne at this current time is doing so from their heart and not their head.
It's something of a mute point anyway, as the owner fortunately sees things as I do. In his position; it would be club suicide to remove PW.
 

The reason I believe it's mostly young fans is because i cannot think that any supporter of reasoned mind that would think the owner should sack Warne at this current time.
It doesn't make any financial sense whatsoever and fortunately, our owner knows this.

The reason I believe it's mostly young fans is because i cannot think that any supporter of reasoned mind that would think the owner should sack Warne at this current time.
It doesn't make any financial sense whatsoever and fortunately, our owner knows this.

whatever.

whatever.

I am of the opinion that if you did a poll of all Derby fans, the majority would still be backing PW.
I still believe that many of the supporters wanting Warne out are those young, rather naive fans who would turn their back on the team in a heartbeat. The instant success that comes with young minds.
Either way, it's something of a mute point as it's music to my ears when out owner comers out and fully backs the manager.
That is what the club needs...stability. Given time, and hopefully some real money; I remain very confident that PW will succeed.　
 

I am of the opinion that if you did a poll of all Derby fans, the majority would still be backing PW.
I still believe that many of the supporters wanting Warne out are those young, rather naive fans who would turn their back on the team in a heartbeat. The instant success that comes with young minds.
Either way, it's something of a mute point as it's music to my ears when out owner comers out and fully backs the manager.
That is what the club needs...stability. Given time, and hopefully some real money; I remain very confident that PW will succeed.　
 

I am of the opinion that if you did a poll of all Derby fans, the majority would still be backing PW.
I still believe that many of the supporters wanting Warne out are those young, rather naive fans who would turn their back on the team in a heartbeat. The instant success that comes with young minds.
Either way, it's something of a mute point as it's music to my ears when out owner comers out and fully backs the manager.
That is what the club needs...stability. Given time, and hopefully some real money; I remain very confident that PW will succeed.　
 

I am of the opinion that if you did a poll of all Derby fans, the majority would still be backing PW.
I still believe that many of the supporters wanting Warne out are those young, rather naive fans who would turn their back on the team in a heartbeat. The instant success that comes with young minds.
Either way, it's something of a mute point as it's music to my ears when out owner comers out and fully backs the manager.
That is what the club needs...stability. Given time, and hopefully some real money; I remain very confident that PW will succeed.　
 

I am of the opinion that if you did a poll of all Derby fans, the majority would still be backing PW.
I still believe that many of the supporters wanting Warne out are those young, rather naive fans who would turn their back on the team in a heartbeat. The instant success that comes with young minds.
Either way, it's something of a mute point as it's music to my ears when out owner comers out and fully backs the manager.
That is what the club needs...stability. Given time, and hopefully some real money; I remain very confident that PW will succeed.　
 

I am of the opinion that if you did a poll of all Derby fans, the majority would still be backing PW.
I still believe that many of the supporters wanting Warne out are those young, rather naive fans who would turn their back on the team in a heartbeat. The instant success that comes with young minds.
Either way, it's something of a mute point as it's music to my ears when out owner comers out and fully backs the manager.
That is what the club needs...stability. Given time, and hopefully some real money; I remain very confident that PW will succeed.　
 

People speak about this squad in such glowing terms.
The best in the league? Anything but top two is a failure? I can’t understand why.
If you have a number of players playing at a level below their actual level, this tends to shine through and become very telling very quickly. See Leicester in the Championship currently.
In our 15 months in League 1, the only player to really genuinely evidence that on a consistent basis has been McGoldrick. The rest of the players have performed like a top half League 1 team and with the exception of 15 games last winter, they have not looked out of place at this level whatsoever and that should be a massive concern.  
This is not a top two team masquerading as a top ten team, and one that will greatly surge up the table if things change.

I have to echo the comments of @BramcoteRam84.
To win back the fanbase, Warne needs a sustained run of positive results and performances to return the feel good factor. I am not sure the fanbase will tolerate many more showings like we saw on Saturday. It’s reached Hail Mary territory.
However it’s hard to know where he stands with Clowes as we don’t know their relationship and what expectations have been laid out. It might be the case that Clowes anticipated some bumps in the road. Given the cost of a managerial change can be thousands if not millions, maybe he will let things play out longer to ‘protect his investment’. We know if it was Mel, he would have been sacked weeks ago. 
What I am struggling with is who comes next. It’s not an easy job to walk into. It’s a squad with signings from two different managers, a squad plagued by inconsistency and weighed down by expectation, a squad with very few players secured on long term contracts, and a club that is still in recovery from administration and without the financial flexibility of years gone by.
The idea of a young, up-and-coming, progressive manager with the right principles seems to appeal to many. However I do think people underestimate the level of backing needed for such an appointment to work and whether our patience would really last if there were mixed results.
People want to point to the good jobs being done by Kieran McKenna at Ipswich and Rosenior at Hull as to why a good coach with the right principles is the way forward, yet both of them have needed significant investment in the playing side to accelerate matters.
Yes, we might be able to get a better coach in than Warne but good coaches also need good players. I just don’t know that our squad is really as good as people imagine and whether our financial position will allow us to bring in the players needed to make the favoured style work.

you promise 😃

That's not fair. He walked in their direction and applauded before going down the touchline.

That's not fair. He walked in their direction and applauded before going down the touchline.

I know everyone is upset but just imagine how bad it will be in January when Nyambe has gone. Let’s enjoy it whilst we can. I still think we’ll stay up. 

Are you suggesting removing our owner?

Sibley: get him off. he isn't deserving of a place.
We have to get our midfield into this game.