Jourdan

Fitness permitting:
Wildsmith
Wilson - Nelson - Cashin - Elder
Bird - Adams - Hourihane
NML - Gayle - CBT

You write off performances and move on because it’s in the past and you can’t change or rewrite the past?
This idea that you feel and see things more keenly if you are a regular is silly. If you are a fan, you are a fan. It doesn’t matter if you watch on TV or from the stands, go to 5 games or 500 games, travel 5 miles or 50, spend £5 or £5000, you only want the best for your club and it hurts or lifts you up all the same. If you want to dwell on every poor result and every poor performance, of course you are never going to be happy.
We are a club that has been in the second tier (and now third tier) almost exclusively for 25 years. Naturally the bad outweighs the good. I started going to games regularly in 2001 and the years of good football are massively outnumbered by the years where we played poorly. We are surely used to ‘putting up with it’.
If you are a fan of this club, circumstances tend to stop you from going, not entertainment value. I suspect unless you grew up on the Clough, Mackay, Cox and Smith teams, being entertained wasn’t what drew you to supporting the club in the first place and standing by the club through good and bad.
You make it sound like this is the first time in a long time we have played poor football and like this is some oddity. Warne isn’t the first Derby manager to produce a questionable and divisive brand of football, but he might be one of the few to achieve relative success if he is allowed to see the job through.

What's wrong with being positive for the sake of it? I freely admit to being that kind of person, but preferring to pick something positive out of a game doesn't mean I'm defending the stuff you think is poor. I just prefer not to dwell on the negative, there's plenty of that on here already! And you guess wrong, I'm at every home game and plenty of the  away ones too.

Why not?
People cannot seem to separate Warne from his time at Rotherham after all.
Warne's time here shouldn't be compared to his time at Rotherham, but people still do it and use it to suit their agenda...
 

Why not?
People cannot seem to separate Warne from his time at Rotherham after all.
Warne's time here shouldn't be compared to his time at Rotherham, but people still do it and use it to suit their agenda...
 

Why not?
People cannot seem to separate Warne from his time at Rotherham after all.
Warne's time here shouldn't be compared to his time at Rotherham, but people still do it and use it to suit their agenda...
 

Was it after a loss by any chance😂

He won four and lost three out of nine league games. He didn’t win an away league game.
Why is McGoldrick being injured or unfit always used as a shield for Rosenior? We have had so many unfortunate injuries under Warne and no-one seems to sympathise.
For Rosenior, 14 points from 27 points simply wasn’t a compelling audition for the full time role assuming he wanted it.
He is doing a good job at Hull at the moment, but in what way are the circumstances at Hull comparable to ours?

No, I think it’s important to be realistic with where we are, what restrictions we have been under, how long down the line into the rebuild we are, and what we can realistically deliver with this squad week in, week out.
We’re in a position where trade offs are always likely. The irony is if we played entertaining football and were integrating the youngsters but were 10th, in its own way it would be derided. Warne and Clowes can’t really win.
I think it’s a case of recency bias that you want to suggest this brand of football is worse than what came before. It really isn’t. The fact you want to call Rooney’s football ‘compelling’ tells me that you are very entrenched here.

There is normally a drop off between weekend and midweek attendances. Life and work often gets in the way for people.
Of course, fans will vote with their feet. It happens at every club up and down the country, even at clubs with much vaunted support like Leeds.
If we don’t get promoted, either Warne’s job will be under threat or Clowes will give him the first half of next season.
Will it affect attendances? Maybe slightly. But if Derby’s core support have remained through the management spells of Todd, Gregory, Brown, Jewell, Pearson, Cocu, Rooney, Clement and so on, I don’t see the majority deserting the club now.
There have been worse times and less enjoyable football. If you are a fan of the club, nothing should really change.

No, I think it’s important to be realistic with where we are, what restrictions we have been under, how long down the line into the rebuild we are, and what we can realistically deliver with this squad week in, week out.
We’re in a position where trade offs are always likely. The irony is if we played entertaining football and were integrating the youngsters but were 10th, in its own way it would be derided. Warne and Clowes can’t really win.
I think it’s a case of recency bias that you want to suggest this brand of football is worse than what came before. It really isn’t. The fact you want to call Rooney’s football ‘compelling’ tells me that you are very entrenched here.

Me? A happy clapper?
There have been times on this forum where people have suggested I was clinically depressed. What a turn of events.
What is the coffee we are meant to be smelling?
Nescafé Gold Blend? Starbucks Venezuelan Summer Blend?

The club as an entire package will attract players.
Warne is only one small element of that. It starts from the top and encompasses the whole club set up.
If we get promoted to the Championship, of course we will attract decent to good players if we can afford to pay for them.

That depends. Do we have to clap in sync? To a tune? On the count of three?
I have levels of co-ordination similar to the Forest defence.
This could be a problem.

He won four and lost three out of nine league games. He didn’t win an away league game.
Why is McGoldrick being injured or unfit always used as a shield for Rosenior? We have had so many unfortunate injuries under Warne and no-one seems to sympathise.
For Rosenior, 14 points from 27 points simply wasn’t a compelling audition for the full time role assuming he wanted it.
He is doing a good job at Hull at the moment, but in what way are the circumstances at Hull comparable to ours?

No, I think it’s important to be realistic with where we are, what restrictions we have been under, how long down the line into the rebuild we are, and what we can realistically deliver with this squad week in, week out.
We’re in a position where trade offs are always likely. The irony is if we played entertaining football and were integrating the youngsters but were 10th, in its own way it would be derided. Warne and Clowes can’t really win.
I think it’s a case of recency bias that you want to suggest this brand of football is worse than what came before. It really isn’t. The fact you want to call Rooney’s football ‘compelling’ tells me that you are very entrenched here.

He won four and lost three out of nine league games. He didn’t win an away league game.
Why is McGoldrick being injured or unfit always used as a shield for Rosenior? We have had so many unfortunate injuries under Warne and no-one seems to sympathise.
For Rosenior, 14 points from 27 points simply wasn’t a compelling audition for the full time role assuming he wanted it.
He is doing a good job at Hull at the moment, but in what way are the circumstances at Hull comparable to ours?

For balance, I think the biggest criticism that can be levelled at Warne is that his changes can be too left-field and tend to destabilise the team.
Injuries are obviously a big factor, but there are curveballs in team selection and set up that fans are struggling to decipher so imagine how the players must be feeling.
With so few games to go, we need simplicity and to establish consistent partnerships. Get Nelson and Cashin back together in a four. Play full backs at full back. Get Adams, Bird and Hourihane in midfield. Get NML and CBT on the pitch and playing with Gayle.
If we do logical things and don’t achieve logical outcomes, OK. But right now both the players and the manager are doing the inexplicable and that tends to make you think what if.

He won four and lost three out of nine league games. He didn’t win an away league game.
Why is McGoldrick being injured or unfit always used as a shield for Rosenior? We have had so many unfortunate injuries under Warne and no-one seems to sympathise.
For Rosenior, 14 points from 27 points simply wasn’t a compelling audition for the full time role assuming he wanted it.
He is doing a good job at Hull at the moment, but in what way are the circumstances at Hull comparable to ours?

For balance, I think the biggest criticism that can be levelled at Warne is that his changes can be too left-field and tend to destabilise the team.
Injuries are obviously a big factor, but there are curveballs in team selection and set up that fans are struggling to decipher so imagine how the players must be feeling.
With so few games to go, we need simplicity and to establish consistent partnerships. Get Nelson and Cashin back together in a four. Play full backs at full back. Get Adams, Bird and Hourihane in midfield. Get NML and CBT on the pitch and playing with Gayle.
If we do logical things and don’t achieve logical outcomes, OK. But right now both the players and the manager are doing the inexplicable and that tends to make you think what if.

Me? A happy clapper?
There have been times on this forum where people have suggested I was clinically depressed. What a turn of events.
What is the coffee we are meant to be smelling?
Nescafé Gold Blend? Starbucks Venezuelan Summer Blend?

Warne and the players have 11-14 games to get things right. Clowes will be concerned about back to back losses but ultimately he will assess the situation at the end of the season when we know what division we’ll be in, so really so should we as a fanbase.
It’s not going to be helpful to do it any sooner. It’s crunch time. We all need to be pulling in the same direction, not getting the knives out after every less than perfect result. People talk about the club being short termist, yet where the manager’s future is concerned, many of our fans are the same.
Clearly Warne and the players are feeling the pressure, and need our support to get the job done. Instead, if last night is anything to go by, the players and the manager will be dragged over the coals. 
People believe we have the best squad in the division and should be achieving more, but it doesn’t really add up. This is a League 1 group of players with the kind of limitations that are rampant at this level. Players don’t make the mistakes ours do and switch off in the way ours do with the same regularity in the Championship and above. 
Portsmouth have set the pace and led the way since early on and look fully deserving of promotion. We need to step up and show we deserve it too. If we don’t, Barnsley, Bolton and Peterborough will definitely oblige.
Last night was a worry but we have to believe while it’s still possible.

Nah,mostly those who still haven't let him go,why would the rest of us be interested?
If we want to lament a manager who actually was both our manager and a bloody good one,let's talk about Stevie Mac,not someone who had a very poor record here both as an assistant and as temporary gaffer.

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