Wolfie20 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Sunderland sack Mowbray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wolfie20 Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 Must be that time of year - Swansea have sacked Michael Duff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 If we get rid of Warne this season, get this man in straight away. therealhantsram, RoyMac5, Ted McMinn Football Genius and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jubbs said: If we get rid of Warne this season, get this man in straight away. That would make us even more stupid than Sunderland. SKRam, Returning ram, GB SPORTS and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: That would make us even more stupid than Sunderland. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jubbs said: Why? Sunderland have got rid of their manager with their club only 3 points off a playoff place - we're in the top six with games in hand on the 2 teams immediately above us. maxjam, Day, Crewton and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoxoram Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Wolfie20 said: That would make us even more stupid than Sunderland. This, Spot on mate. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 14 hours ago, Wolfie20 said: Sunderland have got rid of their manager with their club only 3 points off a playoff place - we're in the top six with games in hand on the 2 teams immediately above us. Context. Sunderland are in a much more competitive league. They surprisingly have a bottom eight wage budget for the Championship and one of the youngest squads. Mowbray was doing an excellent job. I’d have him over Warne all day long. 100%. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 15 hours ago, Jubbs said: Why? I think the point is that us sacking Warne would make us more stupid than Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 3 hours ago, TigerTedd said: I think the point is that us sacking Warne would make us more stupid than Sunderland. There is also the very valid point that every day we don't sack Warne, it winds half a dozen posters up on here to the point that the whole nonsense runs across thread after thread. Then I get to use this... TigerTedd, Wolfie20, Comrade 86 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Context. Sunderland are in a much more competitive league. They surprisingly have a bottom eight wage budget for the Championship and one of the youngest squads. Mowbray was doing an excellent job. I’d have him over Warne all day long. 100%. You've completely missed my point. I rate Mowbray but think given our current position we'd be making a mistake if there was a possibility of getting rid of Warne. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Context. Sunderland are in a much more competitive league. They surprisingly have a bottom eight wage budget for the Championship and one of the youngest squads. Mowbray was doing an excellent job. I’d have him over Warne all day long. 100%. Mel Morris attitude and why we are where we are today. There is always someone who has a better record, doesn't mean it's what's best for the club though. Crewton, Gisby and Comrade 86 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Wolfie20 said: You've completely missed my point. I rate Mowbray but think given our current position we'd be making a mistake if there was a possibility of getting rid of Warne That's why I said "if" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Returning ram said: Mel Morris attitude and why we are where we are today. There is always someone who has a better record, doesn't mean it's what's best for the club though. How would trading Warne for Mowbray be a Mel Morris attitude? The reason we are where we are is because Mel racked up the debts with atrocious recruitment. Mowbray is renowned for buying young players with potential, working with young players and players then leaving for profits. The complete opposite of Mel’s scattergun policy. Warne was always a short-term option to get out of League One. He is struggling with that. Warne has shown nothing to be considered a sound long-term option. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 54 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: How would trading Warne for Mowbray be a Mel Morris attitude? The reason we are where we are is because Mel racked up the debts with atrocious recruitment. Mowbray is renowned for buying young players with potential, working with young players and players then leaving for profits. The complete opposite of Mel’s scattergun policy. Warne was always a short-term option to get out of League One. He is struggling with that. Warne has shown nothing to be considered a sound long-term option. Why is Warne struggling ? He is well placed to gain promotion. Bringing another manager is would mean they would then change the philosophy of the club and another change of personnel, scatter fun approach. If you change manager everytime you think a better one comes along, that's a Mel Morris approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPRamFan Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 If we don't get promoted this season and he's still available in the summer, I'd definitely replace him for Warne. Very underrated manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: How would trading Warne for Mowbray be a Mel Morris attitude? The reason we are where we are is because Mel racked up the debts with atrocious recruitment. Mowbray is renowned for buying young players with potential, working with young players and players then leaving for profits. The complete opposite of Mel’s scattergun policy. Warne was always a short-term option to get out of League One. He is struggling with that. Warne has shown nothing to be considered a sound long-term option. It’s literally exactly what Morris did the Clement. Well placed in the playoffs, but a boring style of play, sacked. The point is, if we’re laughing at Sunderland for being stupid for sacking a manager when they’re just outside the playoffs, how stupid would we be for sacking a man anger when we’re actually in the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: It’s literally exactly what Morris did the Clement. Well placed in the playoffs, but a boring style of play, sacked. The point is, if we’re laughing at Sunderland for being stupid for sacking a manager when they’re just outside the playoffs, how stupid would we be for sacking a man anger when we’re actually in the play offs. Mel panicked when results weren't as smooth as he had hoped, barged into the changing room and undermined Clement, then results spiralled out of control. He then waited until the end of the season before hiring a permanent manager. Hardly the same as sacking a manager for a better manager, is is being implied here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Returning ram said: Why is Warne struggling ? He is well placed to gain promotion. Bringing another manager is would mean they would then change the philosophy of the club and another change of personnel, scatter fun approach. If you change manager everytime you think a better one comes along, that's a Mel Morris approach. Warne is struggling because we aren’t in the top two. The playoffs aren’t a given and there is no consolation for getting there and losing in them. This league is bereft of quality. And if we don’t get promoted this season, Warne should be gone IF options like Mowbray are still available. May Contain Nuts and JPRamFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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