Strengths and weaknesses.

[hintonsboots]

Not wishing to mirror David Brent’s staff appraisals, when one employee had eczema as a weakness, I was surprised to see that avoiding offside is our main weakness. I am interested to see how many league goals we have scored direct from set pieces, as Warne is considered to be a set piece specialist coach👀. Can @Ghost of Clough answer the question ? TIA. Also a non aggressive style of play isn’t a characteristic Warne would want in this league.

Edited November 9, 2023 by hintonsboots

[Ghost of Clough]

Set pieces
Set piece goals: 5 (=7th)
Set piece xG: 5.41 (4th)
Set piece shots: 61 (5th)
Key passes from set pieces: 25 (4th)

Aggression
Fouls: 166 (17th worst)
Cards: 31 (7th best)

[Van der MoodHoover]

14 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Set pieces
Set piece goals: 5 (=7th)
Set piece xG: 5.41 (4th)
Set piece shots: 61 (5th)
Key passes from set pieces: 25 (4th)

Aggression
Fouls: 166 (17th worst)
Cards: 31 (7th best)

So do the aggression stats tell me we're making lots of fouls but they're so feeble and girly refs can't bring themselves to card us....

....or loads of our fouls are for offences like offside (which you tend not to get booked for).....

.....or am I over thinking this.....🙄

[Ghost of Clough]

6 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

So do the aggression stats tell me we're making lots of fouls but they're so feeble and girly refs can't bring themselves to card us....

....or loads of our fouls are for offences like offside (which you tend not to get booked for).....

.....or am I over thinking this.....🙄

I believe it would be lots of little niggly fouls, which is what I would think is typical for a side which wants to press.

Offsides aren't counted towards the foul count, where we rank 2nd. Offsides committed by:
1. Collins - 10
2. Washington - 8
3. Mendez-Laing - 6
=4. Bird, Barkhuizen - 3
6. Sibley - 2
=7. Elder, Hourihane, Forsyth, Nelson, Wilson - 1

[Day]

15 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Set piece xG: 5.41 (4th)

[sage]

1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

I believe it would be lots of little niggly fouls, which is what I would think is typical for a side which wants to press.

Offsides aren't counted towards the foul count, where we rank 2nd. Offsides committed by:
1. Collins - 10
2. Washington - 8
3. Mendez-Laing - 6
=4. Bird, Barkhuizen - 3
6. Sibley - 2
=7. Elder, Hourihane, Forsyth, Nelson, Wilson - 1

So Washington's offside per minute is much worse than Collins'. 

Interesting

[Ghost of Clough]

43 minutes ago, sage said:

So Washington's offside per minute is much worse than Collins'. 

Interesting

Washington is offside roughly 1.4 per 90, Collins 1.1

[YorkshireRam]

56 minutes ago, sage said:

So Washington's offside per minute is much worse than Collins'. 

Interesting

That's expected, to be fair, for a striker that plays off the shoulder of the last man, and thrives on through balls. I'd still say it reflects far worse on Jimbo who is a traditional target man and really shouldn't be offside that often (I still love him though 😂)

[sage]

2 hours ago, sage said:

So Washington's offside per minute is much worse than Collins'. 

Interesting

 

1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Washington is offside roughly 1.4 per 90, Collins 1.1

It's not that interesting.😀

[Alan Ramage 4 EVA]

3 minutes ago, sage said:

 

It's not that interesting.😀

It`s not interesting VERY interesting ?

[sage]

28 minutes ago, Alan Ramage 4 EVA said:

It`s not interesting VERY interesting ?

It's Rob Lee/10 not Franny Lee/10

[Mucker1884]

2 hours ago, sage said:

 

It's not that interesting.😀

Now look what you've done!  Check out @Ghost of Clough's reaction to this post...

Just look at his face!

[Ramchop]

9 hours ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

So do the aggression stats tell me we're making lots of fouls but they're so feeble and girly refs can't bring themselves to card us....

....or loads of our fouls are for offences like offside (which you tend not to get booked for).....

.....or am I over thinking this.....🙄

We have the 17th worst foul rate (fouls are bad), and the 7th best yellow card rate (not getting a booking is good)

If you ordered the yellow cards highest to lowest, we'd be 18th?

I'm assuming this is how the table positions work

[Magicman]

We are very weak at getting goals from corners & free kick crosses

[Ghost of Clough]

8 minutes ago, Magicman said:

We are very weak at getting goals from corners & free kick crosses

Joint 7th most goals would suggest you are wrong

[Magicman]

14 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Joint 7th most goals would suggest you are wrong

Not many from those , most come from free form crosses not free kick crosses or  corners. Bradley & Cashin head upwards its a joke given all the practice they get. 

Edited November 10, 2023 by Magicman

[Ghost of Clough]

39 minutes ago, Magicman said:

Not many from those , most come from free form crosses not free kick crosses or  corners. Bradley & Cashin head upwards its a joke given all the practice they get. 

No, we're joint 7th for goals directly from corners and freekicks.

[oodledoodle]

16 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

No, we're joint 7th for goals directly from corners and freekicks.

I remember seeing some stats that only a really, really small percentage of corners result in a shot on target, never mind a goal. I think a goal was single digit percentages. So the argument was, why do we all get so excited by them, and put so much weight on whether we score from them? Might as well look at goals from goal kicks, throw ins etc.

[Srg]

On 10/11/2023 at 08:49, sage said:

So Washington's offside per minute is much worse than Collins'. 

Interesting

Washington’s game is running in behind, Collins isn’t. Collins isn’t running away from anyone with a 5 yard head start. 

[Ghost of Clough]

16 minutes ago, oodledoodle said:

I remember seeing some stats that only a really, really small percentage of corners result in a shot on target, never mind a goal. I think a goal was single digit percentages. So the argument was, why do we all get so excited by them, and put so much weight on whether we score from them? Might as well look at goals from goal kicks, throw ins etc.

102 corners, 35 found a Derby player. 140 freekicks, 98 found a Derby player (including short freekicks in our half).

We've had 61 shots from a total 242 set pieces - 25% chance of a shot.

Generally speaking 1 in 3 shots is on target, so roughly 20 this season = 8% chance of a shot on target

5 goals from 242 set pieces = 2% chance of a goal.

 

As things stand, we average 8.7 shots per goal from open play, and 12.2 shots per goal from set pieces.