RoyMac5 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, Curtains said: Thompson is ok but tires easily. Rooney maybe the same He has a small squad Tommo and Rooney aren't match fit? Lots of our squad tire easily it seems, why? Warne likes a small squad, he's said so more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Curtains said: So when Warne was brought to the club I didn’t hear much sympathy for Rosenior Warne was first choice in the summer but we didn’t get him ( Robinson-at Oxford was second choice I think) so Rosinor got the acting position but if we hadn’t given out the acting position we wouldn’t have had players like McGoldrick Hourahan or Mendiz- Lang, Rooney etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: What exactly is "unfounded and unsubstantiated"? We're not talking about random internet rumours, it's stuff we can literally see happening on the pitch in front of us. It’s isn’t pretty in Div 1. Unfounded and unsubstantiated because you are inferring Warne has problems in team selection and recruiting etc. We don’t know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Tommo and Rooney aren't match fit? Lots of our squad tire easily it seems, why? Warne likes a small squad, he's said so more than once. Thompson calves clear as day. Both subbed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondest Goat Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: So Warne having problems with transfers, team selection, tactics, in-game management and player development are all "nit-picking"? What do you actually think a managers job is, if none of that stuff is important? I probably should've used a suitable emoji to highlight that I was joking. 😂 duncanjwitham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Why the concern with a new midfield player, current tactics are to bypass midfield whenever we have possession. Blondest Goat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) Anyhow minds are made up about Warne by some . Up the Rams at Peterborough and Bolton Thank goodness it’s a long time until next home game Edited August 23, 2023 by Curtains Predictive text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gringo said: Why the concern with a new midfield player, current tactics are to bypass midfield whenever we have possession. Yes, so we need a really short one to make that easier. Obviously. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Curtains said: I don’t think so . We are 6 points from 12 And 3 from top! Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 Ram Raider Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 58 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: We're 3 games into a 46 game season - if we are in a similar situation say by the end of October then perhaps more fans will be sharing the same concerns as a few in here currently are. Last Saturdays' win, although not a particularly exciting or controlled performance, nevertheless brought 3 points and a clean sheet - surely less of "a mess" than the previous week? Granted no new players in but the window is still open. When we beat Burton 3-0. Erm............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, Curtains said: Maybe next 2 away games will persuade you I posted (tongue a little bit in cheek) on another thread that for the equivalent fixtures last season we are actually ahead of points against those opponents last season (if you substitute Sheffield Wednesday for Wigan). We could lose to both Peterborough and Bolton and we'd still be even, relative to last year's fixtures, i.e. 6 points from the 18 available at home to Sheff W (1), Oxford (3), Fleetwood (0) and away to Burton (1), Peterborough (0) and Bolton (1). [I say all this without suggesting that last year's achievements should be the benchmark, although doing worse obviously wouldn't be good.] It will be the manner of the next 2 away games almost as much as the results that will be important though. I feel a draw at either place right now would be something of an achievement, given we're not where we'd like to be personnel-wise and we rarely do well at Peterborough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Curtains said: It’s isn’t pretty in Div 1. Unfounded and unsubstantiated because you are inferring Warne has problems in team selection and recruiting etc. We don’t know this. I can see with my own eyes that he keep selecting players, that he has recruited, to do jobs they appear not to be able to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Just now, duncanjwitham said: I can see with my own eyes that he keep selecting players, that he has recruited, to do jobs they appear not to be able to do. I remember when Brian Clough came to Derby he didn’t do well at first . In fact it was very average. I am not saying Warne is equatable to the genius BC but Brian had money to spend. He bought Todd without telling Sam. longson. I just feel Warne is being slammed for Rotherham where as Clough could of been over Hartlepool. We need to give Warne a chance and the guy is a decent bloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, jameso said: Well that's all very nice but you've missed a trick by not making it to the tune of "In the Navy" by the Village People. Perhaps something along the lines of: "In the buildiiiiiiiiiiiiing Yes, pleasant chaps with pleasant beards In the buildiiiiiiiiiiiiiing Yes, please don't listen to the jeers Come on now people, sign a man In the building They don't need to play for Rotherham" ? EDIT: Either way I look forward to your guitar and harmonica rendition of whichever you choose to use 😉 Although I feel we may be heading towards "Unsigned Melody" Oh, my love, my darling, I want to smell your neck, a long, lonely time, and the ball goes by slowly, midfield can do so much, are you still mine, I need your sign I need your sign Godspeed your signing to me Lonely agents lie, to the sea..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Just now, RadioactiveWaste said: Although I feel we may be heading towards "Unsigned Melody" Oh, my love, my darling, I want to smell your neck, a long, lonely time, and the ball goes by slowly, midfield can do so much, are you still mine, I need your sign I need your sign Godspeed your signing to me Lonely agents lie, to the sea..... It's time for your afternoon nap mate. And wear a hat in the sun won't you. 😄😉 RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Curtains said: I remember when Brian Clough came to Derby he didn’t do well at first . In fact it was very average. I am not saying Warne is equatable to the genius BC but Brian had money to spend. He bought Todd without telling Sam. longson. I just feel Warne is being slammed for Rotherham where as Clough could of been over Hartlepool. We need to give Warne a chance and the guy is a decent bloke No amount of time is going to change what type of players these signings fundamentally are though. Sonny Bradley will never turn into the mobile, comfortable-on-the-ball centre half that is needed to play in the spread back 3 we started the season out in, Elder will never be a progressive wingback that can beat a fullback and whip a cross in etc. And as for "didn't do well at first", we're nearly a year into Warne's management. People were willing to write off last season because he didn't have the players he wanted. Well a year later he's signed a bunch of players, and they seem no more capable of playing Warne's system than the last lot were. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: No amount of time is going to change what type of players these signings fundamentally are though. Sonny Bradley will never turn into the mobile, comfortable-on-the-ball centre half that is needed to play in the spread back 3 we started the season out in, Elder will never be a progressive wingback that can beat a fullback and whip a cross in etc. And as for "didn't do well at first", we're nearly a year into Warne's management. People were willing to write off last season because he didn't have the players he wanted. Well a year later he's signed a bunch of players, and they seem no more capable of playing Warne's system than the last lot were. Ward and Bird injuries not helping along with Wilson Sibley and Barks also. I will give Warne more time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, Curtains said: I remember when Brian Clough came to Derby he didn’t do well at first . In fact it was very average. I am not saying Warne is equatable to the genius BC but Brian had money to spend. He bought Todd without telling Sam. longson. I just feel Warne is being slammed for Rotherham where as Clough could of been over Hartlepool. We need to give Warne a chance and the guy is a decent bloke Clough won 7 of his first 9 league games as manager (8 of first 10 in all competitions). RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Clough won 7 of his first 9 league games as manager (8 of first 10 in all competitions). https://www.managerstats.co.uk/managers/brian-clough/ lost more than he won at Hartlepool Shocking at Brighton and Leeds Edited August 23, 2023 by Curtains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Curtains said: https://www.managerstats.co.uk/managers/brian-clough/ lost more than he won at Hartlepool Shocking at Brighton and Leeds How does that 'help' Warne, what if we are his Hartlepool, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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