DanDan Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Wow. If true, that undermines the Administrators. Who said it though - Jordan? Heard this too, Jordan said he’s spoken to Gibson who told him he’d spoke to two bidders directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, ollycutts1982 said: Ye Jordan said it. He said he knew the 2 bidders and knew for a fact they’d spoken with MFC. He's not thinking of Erik is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, ollycutts1982 said: Ye Jordan said it. He said he knew the 2 bidders and knew for a fact they’d spoken with MFC. Interesting. But the nub is, it's MFC taking action against DCFC and DCFC are controlled by the administrators. I also think there's some flexibility being played about what the issue is - from the administrators POV, it's Boro and Wycombe can't be settled because the money all goes to MSD/HMRC/other creditors and using the money to settle Boro and WW takes away from the money to Dell/MSD (etc), so yes, one way you could look at it is that the issue is MSD that's preventing a settlement to Boro/WW and is thus the barrier, but it's a bit of a disingenuous way to look at it and you can understand that MSD are not going to be likely to go "OK, we'll accept less than we agreed so the money can go to Gibson and Couhig". Spin wars going on. At present Boro and WW are entitled to abousolutly £0. THey have claims that are yet to be determined in their worth, but entitled moneies? Zero. RoyMac5, vonwright, BramcoteRam84 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motley Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, DanDan said: Heard this too, Jordan said he’s spoken to Gibson who told him he’d spoke to two bidders directly. And we believe Gibson…..give it a rest…..of course he would say that wouldn’t he……but who actually believes HIM… Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, DanDan said: Heard this too, Jordan said he’s spoken to Gibson who told him he’d spoke to two bidders directly. Ffs if that dosent put them off nothing will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: He's not saying Riley *is* pulling out, he's saying we're in a mess *if* he pulls out. Surely it shoud read He's not saying Riley *is* pulling out, he's saying She's in a mess *if* he pulls out Steve How Hard? and Gritstone Tup 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Motley said: And we believe Gibson…..give it a rest…..of course he would say that wouldn’t he……but who actually believes HIM… I'd think it's probably true that Ashely and someone from the Appleby bid has talked to gibson. Just that's a million miles away from a written agreement or understanding or settlement and the DCFC are under the control of the administrators. and the administrators are trying to get money to actual creditors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 My total guess, the extra funding could actually be coming from Ashley. If you notice, Nixon hasn't said diddly squat on Ashley, because he isn't getting the inside scoop on him. I remember he tweeted "and the Ashley rumours won't go away", minutes before the story came out that Ashley was seriously interested. So although he was hearing something, hardly the breaking news that John Percy delivered. Nixon probably caught wind of a potential buyer chucking in the funds to see out the season and Riley has been his guess. RadioactiveWaste and DanDan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanDan Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Motley said: And we believe Gibson…..give it a rest…..of course he would say that wouldn’t he……but who actually believes HIM… Not saying I believe him, I’m saying what was on Talksport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 So while Jordan gets info from Hosking, he’s also admitted he has a direct line into Steve Gibson and spoke to him, this information he’s relayed today is directly from Gibson. Everyone is playing the negotiation game here. Someone somewhere is not telling the truth. It’s about net result, getting the best deal possible no matter what dirty tactics are used to get there. If Gibson is telling the truth, undermines the administrators big time and they need to be talking to their bidders. There are bidders involved, that’s positive and tips the balance in favour of not being liquidated. The key is ensuring funding and keeping the squad together while this gets sorted out. Need to be continuing to shine the light on EFL Boro and Wycombe. Jordan will have given fuel to the red dogs and Boro fans trying to discredit us but need to keep the pressure on. Problem is we’re not involved in the negotiation and are therefore powerless and therefore going to lap up most things we read both positive and negative. Stay positive and wait for the next update - - Wazza usually provides updates in his press conference- in the meantime we’ve got quite a big game tomorrow. Keep the Faith - COYR! ???? hintonsboots, RadioactiveWaste, Adslegend and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, DanDan said: Heard this too, Jordan said he’s spoken to Gibson who told him he’d spoke to two bidders directly. Maybe he has but maybe they told him where to go ? 5 minutes ago, Motley said: And we believe Gibson…..give it a rest…..of course he would say that wouldn’t he……but who actually believes HIM… Yeah, if the original source was Gibson, he is just trying to expunge himself from any blame. Don't believe anything that vindictive man says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, BramcoteRam84 said: So while Jordan gets info from Hosking, he’s also admitted he has a direct line into Steve Gibson and spoke to him, this information he’s relayed today is directly from Gibson. Everyone is playing the negotiation game here. Someone somewhere is not telling the truth. It’s about net result, getting the best deal possible no matter what dirty tactics are used to get there. If Gibson is telling the truth, undermines the administrators big time and they need to be talking to their bidders. There are bidders involved, that’s positive and tips the balance in favour of not being liquidated. The key is ensuring funding and keeping the squad together while this gets sorted out. Need to be continuing to shine the light on EFL Boro and Wycombe. Jordan will have given fuel to the red dogs and Boro fans trying to discredit us but need to keep the pressure on. Problem is we’re not involved in the negotiation and are therefore powerless and therefore going to lap up most things we read both positive and negative. Stay positive and wait for the next update - - Wazza usually provides updates in his press conference- in the meantime we’ve got quite a big game tomorrow. Keep the Faith - COYR! ???? You're right it's all about negotiating stance. I suspect rather the someone not telling the truth, it's the case that no one is telling the whole truth - no one is excatly lying, but there only giving enough of the truth to make you think it's other guys who are the issue. BramcoteRam84 and Maharan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, RadioactiveWaste said: You're right it's all about negotiating stance. I suspect rather the someone not telling the truth, it's the case that no one is telling the whole truth - no one is excatly lying, but there only giving enough of the truth to make you think it's other guys who are the issue. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, RoyMac5 said: Nixon is definitely moving the goal posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, Gritstone Tup said: Nixon is definitely moving the goal posts And no-one else is? ? RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, ollycutts1982 said: Being discussed on Talksport now. Apparently 2 of the 3 bidders have spoken with MFC and are happy to deal with them in isolation away from the administrators. Also, the issue is with DEL and MSD. Back in the administrators court. ?? That’s what he would say, RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, RadioactiveWaste said: You're right it's all about negotiating stance. I suspect rather the someone not telling the truth, it's the case that no one is telling the whole truth - no one is excatly lying, but there only giving enough of the truth to make you think it's other guys who are the issue. Spot on. Smoke and Mirrors. Gibson’s chats could well have been we need to talk but we don’t agree and then back to the admins to push the EFL. Boro and Wycombe are not backing down and won’t, so this is all about leveraging the EFL, painting the EFL in a bad light and forcing them to get off the pot and show some leadership and accountability as the regulator. Gibson painting Derby as the bad guys and his main goal to leverage some compo out of this and if he can he wants to screw Mel and get Mel to put some more money in to sort this out. Betty Swollocks, RoyMac5 and RadioactiveWaste 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, PistoldPete said: That’s what he would say, Dell and MSD don't want less money so some of it can be given to Gibson? What a shocking stance. I'm blown away a financial lender would take that view. RoyMac5 and BramcoteRam84 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Jesus Christ that’s embarrassing. I can only hope it’s an individual idiot on the socials rather than being representative of the views of the Trust. Yes it is and has been taken down now. DarkFruitsRam7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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