Tyler Durden Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Couldn't be less 'disingenuous' IMO. Told he has no future at Derby and given no squad number. That's about as unequivocal as it gets. What else would you have him do as it seems like a needless dig at the gaffer to me. Am not sure how inquiring about how long someone has left on their contract can then be construed by yourself as being a sly dig at Cocu but only you know that. For the avoidance of doubt it wasn't, to avoid another series of banal exchanges with you to try and justify yourself (I can preempt your answer now being somewhere along the lines of I dont need to justify myself so please save that tedious riposte) Please refer to my previous posts in the main forum about making a casual comment then marks you down as a Cocu out fanatic which you've just endorsed in one post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Couldn't be less 'disingenuous' IMO. Told he has no future at Derby and given no squad number. That's about as unequivocal as it gets. What else would you have him do as it seems like a needless dig at the gaffer to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Am not sure how inquiring about how long someone has left on their contract can then be construed by yourself as being a sly dig at Cocu but only you know that. You called him disingenuous - I pointed out that he's not misleading anyone. Grow up. disingenuous /ˌdɪsɪnˈdʒɛnjʊəs/ Learn to pronounce adjective not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. "this journalist was being somewhat disingenuous as well as cynical" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: You called him disingenuous - I pointed out that he's not misleading anyone. Grow up. No you inferred that I was having a dig at Cocu via my comment which I've just said I wasn't. I don't object to your comments about being disingenuous I object to your totally inappropriate conclusion that this was meant as some sly criticism of Cocu. But now we've got that cleared up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: No you inferred that I was having a dig at Cocu via my comment which I've just said I wasn't. I don't object to your comments about being disingenuous I object to your totally inappropriate conclusion that this was meant as some sly criticism of Cocu. But now we've got that cleared up. ?? Accusing someone of lying when they are clearly not is having a dig. Honestly, give your head a wobble mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: ?? Accusing someone of lying when they are clearly not is having a dig. Honestly, give your head a wobble mate. Thanks for the excerpt from the Oxford English Dictionary my life is fulfilled now. Look up patronising and condescending at the same time when you're at it please as you seem not to understand the definitions of both or choose to apply them regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Put your handbags away please, gents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Thanks for the excerpt from the Oxford English Dictionary my life is fulfilled Welcome mate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, SaintRam said: Put your handbags away please, gents. Yes I'm done. I don't want us to get booted off the new server after a couple of hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 49 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Am not sure how inquiring about how long someone has left on their contract can then be construed by yourself as being a sly dig at Cocu but only you know that. For the avoidance of doubt it wasn't, to avoid another series of banal exchanges with you to try and justify yourself (I can preempt your answer now being somewhere along the lines of I dont need to justify myself so please save that tedious riposte) Please refer to my previous posts in the main forum about making a casual comment then marks you down as a Cocu out fanatic which you've just endorsed in one post. Enquiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, ShoreRam said: Enquiring. Yes you're quite right. In all of the excitement I made that typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Yes you're quite right. In all of the excitement I made that typo. Only kidding mate, it was just a bit of a free hit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EulogyForEvolution Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 19 hours ago, dantheram said: The bloke is crap. Great insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Any takers yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erathirea Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Do Brentford want him back? Swap deal, for... literally anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookiebear1 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Can't we just walk him down to Westfield (I know it's Intu, things shouldn't change) and see how much we'd get for him at CEX. I think Mel would accept anything above a Ps4 VR headset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Throwing this one out there... With the arrival of KJ and JI, two out and out wingers. Would training day in day out with them help improve FJ and unleash the player he truly is? Just a thought ??♂️??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Personally I would keep Jozefzoon. Obviously we won’t but we really should. We have a small squad and we are light in his position. Lawrence, Ibe and Waghorn are still weeks away from being ready to play and injuries and suspensions will be a constant churn over the season. They won’t just magically stop in November. All it takes is an injury to Jozwiak and what a terrible spot we would be in. I am not sure how we can complain about the finances, injuries, and a lack of squad depth, yet completely fail to utilise a potentially fit and able senior player while he is here. Yes, we all know he hasn’t really sparkled in a Derby shirt, but if we want him to attract interest from other clubs, how is he going to do that if he is being frozen out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olton Ram Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Personally I would keep Jozefzoon. Obviously we won’t but we really should. We have a small squad and we are light in his position. Lawrence, Ibe and Waghorn are still weeks away from being ready to play and injuries and suspensions will be a constant churn over the season. They won’t just magically stop in November. All it takes is an injury to Jozwiak and what a terrible spot we would be in. I am not sure how we can complain about the finances, injuries, and a lack of squad depth, yet completely fail to utilise a potentially fit and able senior player while he is here. Yes, we all know he hasn’t really sparkled in a Derby shirt, but if we want him to attract interest from other clubs, how is he going to do that if he is being frozen out? There's a lot of sense in what you say, but the bad feeling between Cocu and Zoon going back to their PSV days (Zoon wasn't happy at his lack of career progression there under Cocu) means he was probably onto a loser the moment Cocu arrived here. He hasn't been given a squad number now even with the injuries. Whatever happens, he's done at DCFC. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Personally I would keep Jozefzoon. Obviously we won’t but we really should. We have a small squad and we are light in his position. Lawrence, Ibe and Waghorn are still weeks away from being ready to play and injuries and suspensions will be a constant churn over the season. They won’t just magically stop in November. All it takes is an injury to Jozwiak and what a terrible spot we would be in. I am not sure how we can complain about the finances, injuries, and a lack of squad depth, yet completely fail to utilise a potentially fit and able senior player while he is here. Yes, we all know he hasn’t really sparkled in a Derby shirt, but if we want him to attract interest from other clubs, how is he going to do that if he is being frozen out? Logical but unlikely then again he has hardly produced anything in a Derby shirt so it would be a waste of a place so we may as well give that spot to a youngster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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