Ambitious Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 If Jozefzoon goes to Rotherham, I wonder what the odds would be on him scoring/assisting more goals than Jozwiak? It's just a gut feeling that he moves on to return 15 goals/assists and gets rave reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Best for him and best for us. Best of luck Flo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Jubbs said: No doubt he'll thrive! More than likely score against us too (providing it's a sale, not a loan) Would be a loanhttps://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-Derby-county-star-subject-of-agreed-leeds-18-bid-in-talks-to-join-rotherham/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ambitious said: It's just a gut feeling that he moves on to return 15 goals/assists and gets rave reviews. I can just imagine him getting loads of goals and assists, having no recall clause in January and us having to let him go for free once his contract runs out next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I'm disappointed for him and with him. I thought he would do better. If there's a 15 goals/assists player in there, he certainly hasn't done anything to suggest it in his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Good luck for Derby, and for Zoon. #fingerscrossedforyourmove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Should have a lot more space to express himself playing on the counter for Rotherham. Hopefully plays well enough in the next 3 months to earn a permanent move elsewhere. It'll be a bonus if we manage to get a fee for him in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Thank duck someone has come in for him, getting shot of him in any way shape or form is good news. Nothing against the bloke, but his move here has been a disaster. Be great to have him off the wage book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Glad for him as much as anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, Andicis said: Best for him and best for us. Best of luck Flo. Just go with the flow, Flo. I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Thank duck someone has come in for him, getting shot of him in any way shape or form is good news. Nothing against the bloke, but his move here has been a disaster. Be great to have him off the wage book. Hilarious. Getting shot of him an any shape or form is good news...nothing against the bloke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, AndyinLiverpool said: Hilarious. Getting shot of him an any shape or form is good news...nothing against the bloke... You rather have him sit here not playing on our wage bill? That isn’t good for us, and it isn’t good for him either I’d argue. Good move for all parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Millenniumram said: You rather have him sit here not playing on our wage bill? That isn’t good for us, and it isn’t good for him either I’d argue. Good move for all parties. I think you've missed the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Jozefzoon is a fairly capable Championship player. His time at Brentford tells you that. He’s just never been given full backing by the managers here. Players need that TLC - to be loved, to be encouraged, to be backed and to be trusted. If Warne and the staff at Rotherham can do that, it’ll be interesting to see what kind of impact he will have. How many players come here, don’t hit the heights, but join another club and look completely revitalised? A move to Millwall has worked for Bennett, Malone and Pearce. A move to Bristol City has worked for Weimann and a return worked for Paterson. A move to Blackburn seems to have worked for Bradley Johnson too. Even Kieran Dowell - one of our worst signings in living memory - moved to Wigan, flourished and earned himself a move to Norwich. So there’s definite hope for Jozefzoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Jourdan said: He’s just never been given full backing by the managers here. I think you are wrong. However perhaps he's never earnt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: I think you are wrong. However perhaps he's never earnt it. I'm pretty sure the coaches have tried with him. Had they not I think he'd have been asked to move on a lot sooner. I think part of the issue is that he's a brilliant trainer, but a racehorse that only gives it's running on the gallops, never on the racecourse, ain't gonna pay its fees and Zoon's not put up for a fair while, though in admittedly limited opportunities. I'm inclined to think that there's a decent player in there, but it seems like his confidence is shot away. Maybe if he gets more regular game time, which he likely would with this loan, something will click and some confidence may return. He comes across as a decent lad and it'd be nice to see him find some form again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Ultimately we spent the whole of last season crying out for someone who could play on the right, and he barely got a look in. Two managers didn’t trust him. A real shame, clearly brilliant in training and also when playing at the KCOM Stadium, it’s just a shame about everywhere else. Good to lose another of Frank’s failures off the wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 12 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: I'm inclined to think that there's a decent player in there, but it seems like his confidence is shot away. 12 hours ago, nottingram said: Ultimately we spent the whole of last season crying out for someone who could play on the right, and he barely got a look in. Two managers didn’t trust him. I'm inclined to think he's not good enough. Afterall this is his second spell with Cocu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: I'm inclined to think he's not good enough. Afterall this is his second spell with Cocu! I don’t think it’s a question of raw ability - plenty have said he’s the most skilful at the club without any hesitation. Of course, ‘skill’ isn’t everything but it suggests there’s definitely a footballer in there somewhere. For whatever reason he hasn’t been able to knit it all together on the pitch and there’s clearly a reason he’s pretty much the only one who’s been totally excluded under Cocu, as well as never really being in favour under the manager who signed him. Frank’s permanent dealings get worse the longer time goes on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, nottingram said: I don’t think it’s a question of raw ability - plenty have said he’s the most skilful at the club without any hesitation. Of course, ‘skill’ isn’t everything but it suggests there’s definitely a footballer in there somewhere. For whatever reason he hasn’t been able to knit it all together on the pitch and there’s clearly a reason he’s pretty much the only one who’s been totally excluded under Cocu, as well as never really being in favour under the manager who signed him. Frank’s permanent dealings get worse the longer time goes on! His decision making leaves a lot to be desired. You can see he has good close control, and can keep the ball but he often chose to do the wrong thing with it. There were a lot of times where he was one on one with the full back and wouldn't take him on, often passing back. Then he would have 3 players on him and he would try and take them all on instead making an easy pass. The most obvious example I can think of is at Wembley. He was in the box up against 2 defenders, tried to take them both on and forced a corner, that seems good play, and there were a lot of people on here raving how good he looked in that moment, however, there was a simple square ball to Waghorn who was unmarked on the penalty spot, all he had to do was roll the ball to him and it probably would have been 2-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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