Guest Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 41 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: I'm starting to think that some folk only watch the briefings so they can have a good bitch about them afterwards. Hard to know which is more tedious at this point. Or maybe in the hope that sensible questions will be asked, where the answer is relevant and useful to the general public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, i-Ram said: No culling tonight. That nice Boycie chap is in charge. And schtive isn't around to goad people then grass them up. Quick let's go mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-science-is-becoming-clear-lockdowns-are-no-longer-the-right-medicine-k5c652wk8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Or maybe in the hope that sensible questions will be asked, where the answer is relevant and useful to the general public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Here you are @RamNut just for you. Not sure if it’s been posted but just enter your post code for the number of deaths. https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc811/msoamap/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3LkEJAx26ZXKQV_BQ14xYlZPQSesuftKRu6-YZyX5HEZ8FcMxyihyqG-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Van Gritters said: Here you are @RamNut just for you. Not sure if it’s been posted but just enter your post code for the number of deaths. https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc811/msoamap/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3LkEJAx26ZXKQV_BQ14xYlZPQSesuftKRu6-YZyX5HEZ8FcMxyihyqG-4 Eh? Tory boy mafia is out in force tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 What do people think of the idea that virus may have escaped/come from lab in Wuhan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said: What do people think of the idea that virus may have escaped/come from lab in Wuhan ? Don’t know. I saw one unconfirmed suggestion that patient zero, the first person to get it, was allegedly from the lab not the market, but how anyone could know that I’m not sure. At present I would favour the market for two reasons. Firstly the genome was similar to bat coronavirus but not the same, which is why it was reckoned to have jumped species via an intermediary species - possibly pangolin. Secondly, the first cases were all centred on the market. If a scientist had acquired the disease in the lab by buggering about with a bat virus as suggested, then there should be other scientists and family members infected and a different geographical outbreak in Wuhan. And it’s not the bat virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said: What do people think of the idea that virus may have escaped/come from lab in Wuhan ? That is the current narrative coming out of the USA but Trump hasn’t yet seen this CCTV evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said: What do people think of the idea that virus may have escaped/come from lab in Wuhan ? The wet market was seafood, not meat. I don't think it was engineered in a lab, but accidental release of a natural virus being studied isn't beyond the realm of possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: I'm starting to think that some folk only watch the briefings so they can have a good bitch about them afterwards. Hard to know which is more tedious at this point. Agreed. They hardly ever mention anything the politician has said. Just take the question they get most worked up about and repost it here. Guess it's a bit weird for them seeing most the media saying something they disagree with for a change. They've had years where only the only mainstream voice that said anything different were the Guardian and Mirror. The BBC mostly towed the party line. Now these and plenty of other traditionally Tory media are also piling in on Johnson and his band of merry fools...it must be hard to take. I get the feeling Johnson is not very well liked beyond his inner circle, especially as some of his cabinet are pretty much joke characters. Many in the media must think Johnson's actions at the start of this crisis were reckless, as the Sunday Times article showed a couple of weeks back. Not really much to bash Starmer and Labour with at the moment, so constantly moaning at the media seems a good outlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said: The wet market was seafood, not meat. I don't think it was engineered in a lab, but accidental release of a natural virus being studied isn't beyond the realm of possibility. That sounds like enough evidence for me to burn down the science lab at the local comprehensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Agreed. They hardly ever mention anything the politician has said. Just take the question they get most worked up about and repost it here. Guess it's a bit weird for them seeing most the media saying something they disagree with for a change. They've had years where only the only mainstream voice that said anything different were the Guardian and Mirror. The BBC mostly towed the party line. Now these and plenty of other traditionally Tory media are also piling in on Johnson and his band of merry fools...it must be hard to take. I get the feeling Johnson is not very well liked beyond his inner circle, especially as some of his cabinet are pretty much joke characters. Many in the media must think Johnson's actions at the start of this crisis were reckless, as the Sunday Times article showed a couple of weeks back. Not really much to bash Starmer and Labour with at the moment, so constantly moaning at the media seems a good outlet. Although Starmer said at the beginning of his appointment he wasn’t here to play politics and attack and that lasted for all of about 4 hours. No time for him either. If his only question was ‘how can I help’ and it was genuine and sincere, then there’s a bloke who’d get my vote long term.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: That sounds like enough evidence for me to burn down the science lab at the local comprehensive. If only it was open! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 6 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: I'm starting to think that some folk only watch the briefings so they can have a good bitch about them afterwards. Hard to know which is more tedious at this point. Amateurs i start bitching an hour before the daily briefings and all throughout them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Hope he is alright but we should now be able to watch Susanna Reid in peace, every cloud and all that... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52525122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 6 hours ago, RamNut said: Don’t know. I saw one unconfirmed suggestion that patient zero, the first person to get it, was allegedly from the lab not the market, but how anyone could know that I’m not sure. At present I would favour the market for two reasons. Firstly the genome was similar to bat coronavirus but not the same, which is why it was reckoned to have jumped species via an intermediary species - possibly pangolin. Secondly, the first cases were all centred on the market. If a scientist had acquired the disease in the lab by buggering about with a bat virus as suggested, then there should be other scientists and family members infected and a different geographical outbreak in Wuhan. And it’s not the bat virus. Read somewhere that the lab was built under a french chinese project because at the time the chinese did not have the expertise to build the most secure labs (SL4). Under the agreement 150 french scientist were supposed to go and work there but the chinese reneged on that part of the agreement. Since then no access has ever been given to what is happening there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 45 minutes ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said: Read somewhere that the lab was built under a french chinese project because at the time the chinese did not have the expertise to build the most secure labs (SL4). Under the agreement 150 french scientist were supposed to go and work there but the chinese reneged on that part of the agreement. Since then no access has ever been given to what is happening there. We could blame them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Van Gritters said: We could blame them anyway. I think that horse has already bolted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: I think that horse has already bolted. didn't know you could catch it from Horses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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