DarkFruitsRam7 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 @B4ev6is, time to forgive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 All well and good apologising 6 years down the line, but that game killed any feint chances we had of getting autos that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, Andicis said: All well and good apologising 6 years down the line, but that game killed any feint chances we had of getting autos that season. I know but, at the end of the day, it was a mistake. Nothing vindictive about it. And Chris Martin did have a reputation for going down very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, DarkFruitsRam7 said: I know but, at the end of the day, it was a mistake. Nothing vindictive about it. And Chris Martin did have a reputation for going down very easily. Oh I agree with that. I'm still bitter at him for the potential sums of money that mistake cost our club, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: I know but, at the end of the day, it was a mistake. Nothing vindictive about it. And Chris Martin did have a reputation for going down very easily. He first yellow was for persistent fouling when even The Football League show agreed that none were fouls and one was even a foul on Martin. He went into that game with a clear agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, cannable said: He first yellow was for persistent fouling when even The Football League show agreed that none were fouls and one was even a foul on Martin. He went into that game with a clear agenda. Sorry I don’t believe referees at the top level in this country go into games with agendas. Everyone is human and makes errors - that day Madley did. Move on people - far more important things in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Did he not give a very iffy ofside. My memory has tried to eradicate the pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, rammieib said: Sorry I don’t believe referees at the top level in this country go into games with agendas. Everyone is human and makes errors - that day Madley did. Move on people - far more important things in life. It doesn’t necessarily have to be a vindictive agenda. A case of ‘right, he goes down easily, I’m gonna be harsh in him’ and he goes too far the other way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 We've ballsed up 5 more attempts at getting promoted since then I guess they all were Madleys fault too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said: We've ballsed up 5 more attempts at getting promoted since then I guess they all were Madleys fault too Lol? The point is his apology is little consolation to his piss poor decisions at the time costing us a shot at autos, making a random straw man point doesn't detract from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 At least he's confessed to having dropped a clanger which is more than I've ever heard (pr)Atwell do and he has been much more culpable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, rammieib said: Sorry I don’t believe referees at the top level in this country go into games with agendas. Everyone is human and makes errors - that day Madley did. Move on people - far more important things in life. Every game we get people on here complaining that the ref is biased or hates Derby when it is nothing of the sort. People make mistakes - even with VAR they still make mistakes. Some referees are better than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: At least he's confessed to having dropped a clanger which is more than I've ever heard (pr)Atwell do and he has been much more culpable. To be fair, I don’t think working referees are allowed social media. This has only come about because he got sacked 18 months ago and was allowed Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, Andicis said: All well and good apologising 6 years down the line, but that game killed any feint chances we had of getting autos that season. We dropped a lot of points that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Fair play for admitting it was a duck up. This further evidences imo that VAR would probably be improved by allowing refs to look at the screen themselves more often. Madley obviously knew he made a mistake as soon as he saw a replay for the first time. If we allow refs to look at the screen and make their own mind up on whether they’ve made a mistake or not, then I think we’ll get better decisions. Most refs aren’t arrogant enough to refuse to admit they were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, AndyinLiverpool said: We dropped a lot of points that season. Context is important here, if we'd got something out of that Burnley game there would have been more pressure on Burnley players (potential for them to have dropped more if a rival is closer to them in the table) but also our slump after the Burnley game was partially down to missing Martin, and partially down to the loss in confidence from losing. The chances it'd have been different are still remote, but we were robbed of the chance of ever knowing due to his bad refereeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, Andicis said: Context is important here, if we'd got something out of that Burnley game there would have been more pressure on Burnley players (potential for them to have dropped more if a rival is closer to them in the table) but also our slump after the Burnley game was partially down to missing Martin, and partially down to the loss in confidence from losing. The chances it'd have been different are still remote, but we were robbed of the chance of ever knowing due to his bad refereeing. That’s quite a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said: That’s quite a stretch. As I did say even myself, the chances are still quite remote. But it was a big swing of momentum in our season the Burnley game, with the fixtures directly after being evidence of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Andicis said: As I did say even myself, the chances are still quite remote. But it was a big swing of momentum in our season the Burnley game, with the fixtures directly after being evidence of this. If the team and manager were really that fragile, perhaps we got what we deserve. for happier memories, try to remember the good times. Like all those free kicks won by Martin’s diving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: That’s quite a stretch. We needed a nine-point swing. Play that second half with the scores level, XI v XI (when we controlled the game with 10) and then have Martin available for the Millwall loss the game following. No great stretch there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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