A Ram for All Seasons Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Angry Ram said: So what we all doing for St George’s Day on Thursday? Incoming from the left. ? When I was a lad, I used to march around Derby city centre in a Scout uniform blowing a bugle, and great fun it was too. I'd get arrested if I did it again on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 46 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Same as I always do - nothing. It's not a day I've ever felt any need to celebrate. Means nowt to me Incoming from the right? You’re nothing if not predictable.. Way to go Stalin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TramRam Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, A Ram for All Seasons said: When I was a lad, I used to march around Derby city centre in a Scout uniform blowing a bugle, and great fun it was too. I'd get arrested if I did it again on Thursday. I bet you would too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ram for All Seasons Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, TramRam said: I bet you would too. I said blowing a bugle, not a beagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, A Ram for All Seasons said: I said blowing a bugle, not a beagle. Did he say in a beagle uniform blowing a scout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 hours ago, SchtivePesley said: Same as I always do - nothing. It's not a day I've ever felt any need to celebrate. Means nowt to me Incoming from the right? I've never really known anyone who ever celebrated it. Can't remember anyone ever talking about it back when I was a kid either. Probably the whole dragon thing makes it a bit silly vs saints of rest of Britain who I think were based a bit more in reality, right? When I was younger I thought the English didn't really need to go in for this sort of thing. Partly stiff upper lip, partly that is what smaller countries did to show they were different. I think I've always thought more of being British rather than English anyway. Hope that doesn't upset any of the 'proud to be English brigade'. Like you had any choice in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 9 hours ago, TramRam said: The BBC also currently has no evidence to support the suggestion these allegedly fake accounts had anything to do with the UK government. That sounds like another way of saying, they didn't look and refused to look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 8 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: I've never really known anyone who ever celebrated it. Can't remember anyone ever talking about it back when I was a kid either. Probably the whole dragon thing makes it a bit silly vs saints of rest of Britain who I think were based a bit more in reality, right? When I was younger I thought the English didn't really need to go in for this sort of thing. Partly stiff upper lip, partly that is what smaller countries did to show they were different. I think I've always thought more of being British rather than English anyway. Hope that doesn't upset any of the 'proud to be English brigade'. Like you had any choice in it. I'm proud to be English, British and European but I don't think I'll be doing anything special to celebrate St George's Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TramRam Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 8 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: I think I've always thought more of being British rather than English anyway. Hope that doesn't upset any of the 'proud to be English brigade'. Like you had any choice in it. No complaints from me, You're not alone, There's plenty of people that choose to do that, I have some Scottish and Welsh friends who say they are Scottish or Welsh not British when this conversation usually crops up, No Northern Irish friends tho. I'm born in England and reside in England and have a British passport, I have never felt "embarrassed" as some do when asked where are you from. I'm English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 28 minutes ago, 1967Ram said: I'm proud to be English, British and European but I don't think I'll be doing anything special to celebrate St George's Day. I'll be raising my flag of St George in the front garden, sitting in my union jack deckchair, and I'll be putting St George flag bunting around the front of the house. Who am I kidding. The house looks like that every day. Perhaps I'll just kill a dragon to mark the occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Always thought of myself as English first and foremost. If other people view themselves as British or whatever thats entirely up to them. It would be nice to celebrate St George's Day, a bit like the Irish celebrate St Patricks Day but never have done and starting a tradition now would feel a bit contrived anyway. Just give us an extra bank holiday, that will do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, TramRam said: No complaints from me, You're not alone, There's plenty of people that choose to do that, I have some Scottish and Welsh friends who say they are Scottish or Welsh not British when this conversation usually crops up, No Northern Irish friends tho. I'm born in England and reside in England and have a British passport, I have never felt "embarrassed" as some do when asked where are you from. I'm English. Is the main confusion with English identity that Britain is a country made up of 4 countries? Not sure anywhere else is like it and difficult to explain it to kids when they ask why. Northern Ireland also been part of Ireland complicates matters further. Are we from Great Britain, Britain, United Kingdom or England? Could that be why far right types have always associated with England football as it's one of the only obvious places where you can understand what England means? Even England cricket team is officially England and Wales, plus you can also play for England as well as Ireland and Scotland. As for the 3 smaller countries wanting to be recognised as different, is that much different from been a Brummie, Geordie, Scouser, Cornish, Manc or Yorkshire? Wanting to stand out from where you come from? I think I always associated 'England' with the huge population in the South East, which don't seem to have as clear local identities as the areas above. Cockneys only ever came from a tiny geographical area, abmnd I know very few people who really consider themselves Londoners first and foremost, even when they have lived their whole life in Greater London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TramRam Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 42 minutes ago, GboroRam said: I'll be raising my flag of St George in the front garden, sitting in my union jack deckchair, and I'll be putting St George flag bunting around the front of the house. Who am I kidding. The house looks like that every day. Perhaps I'll just kill a dragon to mark the occasion. You were doing so well, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, TramRam said: Perhaps I'll just kill a dragon to mark the occasion Are you anti Welsh then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Nothing screams patriotism like celebrating the birth of a Roman soldier of Greek heritage in what is now Turkey. That is, if he even existed at all. Don't get me wrong, I am not against a day of celebration in honour of our country I just think the symbolism of it all is superfluous to the occasion. I eagerly await the Facebook posts of people claiming to have been sent to prison for 300 years for flying a flag though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 27 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Don't get me wrong, I am not against a day of celebration in honour of our country I just think the symbolism of it all is superfluous to the occasion. I eagerly await the Facebook posts of people claiming to have been sent to prison for 300 years for flying a flag though. Thing is - I'm not a christian, yet Christmas is the bank holiday I look forward to the most. So it can't really be about how you identify can it? It's really about how much fun the day is. And St George's Day is no fun at all. The scant celebrations you do see tend to be fat beer-bellied, beetroot faced tattooed bald men rolling around drunk, wrapped in flags acting like cavemen Essentially what I'm sayig is that if the patriots want us to celebrate St George's Day then they need to work a lot harder at making that an attractive proposition. Balloons and a jaunty song would be a start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ram for All Seasons Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: I eagerly await the Facebook posts of people claiming to have been sent to prison for 300 years for flying a flag though. All the flags have been used to make coronavirus masks. Much more useful in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ram for All Seasons Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: The scant celebrations you do see tend to be fat beer-bellied, beetroot faced tattooed bald men rolling around drunk, wrapped in flags acting like cavemen The Neptune is closed like all other pubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TramRam Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, FindernRam said: Are you anti Welsh then? That's not my quote, It's Gboro's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TramRam Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 35 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Thing is - I'm not a christian, yet Christmas is the bank holiday I look forward to the most. So it can't really be about how you identify can it? It's really about how much fun the day is. And St George's Day is no fun at all. The scant celebrations you do see tend to be fat beer-bellied, beetroot faced tattooed bald men rolling around drunk, wrapped in flags acting like cavemen Essentially what I'm sayig is that if the patriots want us to celebrate St George's Day then they need to work a lot harder at making that an attractive proposition. Balloons and a jaunty song would be a start In some instances you're right, There are those that will go over board with drink, I've witnessed it, Then again there's those that don't, You don't have to portray a Neanderthal to celebrate a Patron Saint or a Country. Not sure where you live, In Derbys market place at 11am on the 23rd there are hundreds of folk watching a speech then a little act of St George slaying a dragon, Pretty sure when pubs again open there will be beer flowing as normal and the Country will resume to old practices of punching faces in at weekends I've seen English people celebrate St Patricks day, An excuse to get blitzed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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