Ken Tram Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Didn't I hear Cocu say something like, "Penalty taking is a striker's job, so I gave Waghorn the option of taking them." Surely, penalty taking is a specialised skill, and the player(s) with the optimum skill-set do not need to be strikers? Maybe I misunderstood what Cocu said, but I think penalty taking is too important to be allocated on the basis of a player's position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Keep Waggy on them ! Wasn't a great penalty on Saturday but it went in , I'm sure he's working on them in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TibshelfRam Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I don't doubt that Waghorn will improve, he's not been the designated taker since he arrived so it'll probably just take a little bit of time to get used to things. I'd fully expect Rooney to take over in January. If we want to take Waghorn off in the interim - should he miss more or whatever - I wouldn't mind Dowell being given the responsibility. I recall him being Forest's taker when on loan there and apparently has a decent technique. What do I know, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 With penalties I always wonder how such skilful players miss them. Just choose a side and aim for the side netting, doesn’t need to be hit too hard if it’s hitting that side netting. Practice it to the point where every penalty in training is hitting the side netting. Get that muscle memory in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colm Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I always remember this pen Waggy took for us against southampton in the FA Cup shootout last season, smashed it in the top corner, clearly got good technique and i'm not sure there's anyone else in the squad who'd be ahead of him taking them for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 Waggy has always looked to me like. A smash it rather than place it type of striker, so it puzzles me why he’s trying to place it on penalties. Today was a good example. Smash it down the middle and it’s 2-0. His side foot placement looks very shaky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan DCFC Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Ruda Harliss said: Waggy has always looked to me like. A smash it rather than place it type of striker, so it puzzles me why he’s trying to place it on penalties. Today was a good example. Smash it down the middle and it’s 2-0. His side foot placement looks very shaky The 2nd penalty was a good peno. The keeper guessed right went early and was also off his line slightly and made a good save. Id have him off the penalties though after today just because it will be in his head now. Put lawrence on them imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Aidan DCFC said: The 2nd penalty was a good peno. The keeper guessed right went early and was also off his line slightly and made a good save. Id have him off the penalties though after today just because it will be in his head now. Put lawrence on them imo Sorry, I can’t agree. The second penalty was very poor. Low, not near the corner and with no power. Perfect place for a keeper to save all he has to do is go the right way, his first technically was worse but credit to him for going to his left as the keeper would know to his right is his preferred way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Wazzer wonna miss many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just think he should stick to his strengths and put his foot through it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambam Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 On 18/08/2019 at 21:29, RamNut said: It wasn't a great penalty. Never saw charlie george, alan hinton or dean saunders scuff it down the middle. But it was slightly better than nathan ellington. Nathan Ellington took brilliant penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Waghorn should be watching Mo Salah just now and making notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rambam said: Nathan Ellington took brilliant penalties. He took sht penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 55 minutes ago, Van Gritters said: Wazzer wonna miss many. Wish i could agree with that. I think he'll miss plenty. The fact that there isn't an obvious penalty taker just highlights a lack of technical quality. Duh - just realised you mean rooney. I was referring to wagger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Waghorn should be watching Mo Salah just now and making notes That was the definition of unstoppable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Aidan DCFC said: The 2nd penalty was a good peno. The keeper guessed right went early and was also off his line slightly and made a good save. Id have him off the penalties though after today just because it will be in his head now. Put lawrence on them imo It wasn't awful but a good penalty is unstoppable and that clearly wasn't. Having said that the goalie was a good fit and a half off his line - so there is that. Personally I don't have much confidence in Waghorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Jack Marriott has never missed a penalty ? He's only taken one mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 In reference to @TommyPowel and hitting it straight down the middle. The freakonomics guys did research on it and the success rate is easily the highest. They concluded more penalty takers didn't adopt the route because: a) if keepers know that's your m.o. they're ready. b) you look like an idiot if the keeper never moves and still saves it. They concluded reason b was the bigger reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilkestonian Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I think it's time for waghorn to be taken off penalties, missed 2 out of 4 and arguably cost us 4 points - if not then I don't think that we should let any player take more than one penalty a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Put it in the top half of the goal. Doesn't have to be right under the bar. Just top half with decent pace and they never get saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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