KCG Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 A bit stumped by some of our own supporters defending Leeds over this, but some get off on trolling. All teams openly watch their next opposition and look at stats about how they play. Absolutely nothing wrong with this at all, however, that is not what Leeds is guilty of. They have spied on training sessions just prior to games against their opponents. There's only one reason to do this and that is to see how the opposition are going to set up to play against you, and to see if there are any specific corners and free-kick routines. It is cheating and unacceptable. Leeds should be deducted points, but won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Anyone mentioned intellectual property? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Apparently Bielsa is a really cutting edge coach. Yet he uses PowerPoint instead of prezi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, dog said: Anyone mentioned intellectual property? Has there been any potential IP infringement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, dog said: Anyone mentioned intellectual property? I was going to.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: Has there been any potential IP infringement? I thought about that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, dog said: Anyone mentioned intellectual property? I already did, you stole my idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pub Breath Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 54 minutes ago, maxjam said: Prior to the press conference, this was just a local issue between Derby and Leeds, he has now admitted to spying on every team this season. Do you not think that the Chairmen of the other teams in the league, especially those chasing the riches of promotion will not put pressure on the EFL/FA to act? Before the press conference I was expecting a slap on the wrist/fine, thinking about it further however Bielsa's 'honesty' might backfire massively. No mate. All of what I said before applied, regardless of how many people moan. There is no legal precedent and no law to apply to this for anything beyond the slap on wrist that "bringing the game into disrepute" brings. I suppose they could lose thier minds and try it anyway but it would be thrown out of court in a heartbeat regardless. There is nothing they can do about that, if they even want to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 He's seen our remaining fixtures and he's sh1tting bricks that we shall soon be above them, so he's trying to help all our remaining opponents, the FA should relegate them to the Derby Taverners League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Heat maps of player's positions in every game from the last two seasons can be viewed by anyone with a computer. Final preparations and team formations for a specific game in the future can only be got by spying on the opposition. Nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 It isn't just about what is documented and in the public realm but how that knowledge is intended to be used by another individual. That's why he's spying. Not to confirm the knowledge of what has been done but rather to explore how others plan using that knowledge in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just dock leeds a point for every game they’ve cheated this season... so 27... seems fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramathorn Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I’ll admit a certain amount of admiration for the man in terms of him being so “up front” about his use of this tactic all season at all clubs, although it’ll be interesting to see the LUFC official reaction to this given the “we knew nothing” apology we officially received. However, all this talk of “I already have the information, I only do it to double check & lower my anxiety” (not a direct quote) doesn’t wash with me: there are things that these “scouts” are sent to find out specifically in relation to the upcoming game, namely the likely starting XI based on who trains and who is looking injured and any tactical preparations specific to the upcoming game; these are not things he’s necessarily going to gleam from 360 hours of previous game footage or insight. If somebody is there with binoculars to watch, is it beyond the realms of possibility that they will also try to listen to catch specific instructions and tactics to be used against Leeds so that they can be countered proactively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 35 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Especially when your average joe only has to follow this link... https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/20/Show/England-Derby ?? Mason Bennett 64kg & Harry Wilson 70Kg......... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, Pub Breath said: No mate. All of what I said before applied, regardless of how many people moan. There is no legal precedent and no law to apply to this for anything beyond the slap on wrist that "bringing the game into disrepute" brings. I suppose they could lose thier minds and try it anyway but it would be thrown out of court in a heartbeat regardless. There is nothing they can do about that, if they even want to try. Whatever helps you sleep better tonight ?. We'll see in the coming days what the fallout of all of this is, but I'm done for the night, gotta match to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, TobyWanKenobi said: This man called a press conference to brag about his scouting techniques and dissect DCFC weaknesses in front of the world. This bloke is a next level troll and he's got massive balls and I like him. At this point Lamps should be looking at paying Leeds a consultation fee for telling him the sides weaknesses. This bloke is a next level troll and he's got massive balls and I like him. Couldn’t see that on any of the stats. Have you been spying round Thorpe Arch changing rooms? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I hope this winds all our players up to motivate them & then get them to go on a winning run be good if leeds finish 3rd and we pump them in the playoff final ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, G-Ram said: I hope this winds all our players up to motivate them & then get them to go on a winning run be good if leeds finish 3rd and we pump them in the playoff final ? Be better if we watch them get pumped in the play off final, having gone up as champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, Donnyram said: Mason Bennett 64kg & Harry Wilson 70Kg......... ? Poor Mount doesn’t weigh anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffyRam Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Don’t forget everyone, according to Leeds they are founded on ‘integrity and honesty’ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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