Ghost of Clough Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 59 minutes ago, ram59 said: What I'm trying to say is, if the club paid him half his remaining contract and he signed tomorrow for hull, then all parties would be better off than the current situation of running down his contract. You may want to look up the rules regarding the signing of free agents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I’m sure people just spout rubbish without any understanding of what they are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: You may want to look up the rules regarding the signing of free agents You could have saved me looking it up, for everyone else, the player needs to be released from his contract before the end of the transfer window. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, ram59 said: You could have saved me looking it up, for everyone else, the player needs to be released from his contract before the end of the transfer window. I stand corrected. Teach a man to fish... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 11 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Yep. He's still a naff player for us though. ? You’re welcome as always to your opinion Roy! ?Good work! Thing is the thread’s about whether he’s “bleeding us dry”, not whether he’s any good or not! Any view on that all things considered? Or is it a case of “never let actual facts and the reality of a situation get in the way of giving a player you don’t like a good kicking and character assassination”! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, The Arch Deacon said: You’re welcome as always to your opinion Roy! ?Good work! Thing is the thread’s about whether he’s “bleeding us dry”, not whether he’s any good or not! Any view on that all things considered? Or is it a case of “never let actual facts and the reality of a situation get in the way of giving a player you don’t like a good kicking and character assassination”! ? Talk about double standards Roy cant comment yet you can infer Butterfields bleeding us dry.The Simple answer is NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 7 hours ago, TommyPowel said: Talk about double standards Roy cant comment yet you can infer Butterfields bleeding us dry.The Simple answer is NO. It may pay to read the whole thread in future. @The Arch Deacon has actually given some, what I can only assume, real facts about the situation as opposed to the other 8/9 pages of drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 8 hours ago, The Arch Deacon said: You’re welcome as always to your opinion Roy! ?Good work! Thing is the thread’s about whether he’s “bleeding us dry”, not whether he’s any good or not! Any view on that all things considered? Or is it a case of “never let actual facts and the reality of a situation get in the way of giving a player you don’t like a good kicking and character assassination”! ? My opinion is if anyone had wanted him and he wanted to play he'd be gone - see lots of other players from Derby going on loan. He only wanted to go to Hull or only Hull wanted him? Says enough. Thanks for allowing me my opinion btw, glad you're so thoughtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: My opinion is if anyone had wanted him and he wanted to play he'd be gone - see lots of other players from Derby going on loan. He only wanted to go to Hull or only Hull wanted him? Says enough. Thanks for allowing me my opinion btw, glad you're so thoughtful. Doesn't say much for Chris Martin either then that he only got the same offer as Butterfield surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: It may pay to read the whole thread in future. @The Arch Deacon has actually given some, what I can only assume, real facts about the situation as opposed to the other 8/9 pages of drivel. Sorry just got wound up by all this crap being posted on Butterfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Doesn't say much for Chris Martin either then that he only got the same offer as Butterfield surely? Is he still here then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 8 hours ago, TommyPowel said: Talk about double standards Roy cant comment yet you can infer Butterfields bleeding us dry.The Simple answer is NO. Where did I say that Tommy? I have suggested that it seems his wish to play football isn't as great as some other players, both here and out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 31/08/2018 at 23:41, philmycock said: Bleeding us dry for "Money for Nothing" or trying to get a game??? It has to be one or the other then @The Arch Deacon? My view is somewhere in the middle of the two. Quote What I can say is that I have “connections who have connections” close to the player, within DCFC and also at one or two other clubs including Hull. You are passing on your opinion on what did/didn't happen dressed up as fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Is he still here then? Yes he's still a Derby player because Hull were the only team that wanted him and would only take him on loan obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Yes he's still a Derby player because Hull were the only team that wanted him and would only take him on loan obviously. How do you know that. So he managed poor, expensive player that he is to get a loan club, but Butterfield didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Blimey. Think we need this international break over sharpish. There's some going completely stir crazy on here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: It has to be one or the other then @The Arch Deacon? My view is somewhere in the middle of the two. You are passing on your opinion on what did/didn't happen dressed up as fact. How is it opinion dressed up as fact? I'm offering information that's come to me from good sources at both clubs involved. Purely to help clear up the speculation and the subsequent unfair accusation from some that the player is perhaps happy to stay put and see out his contract in the shadows. I just happen to know that the player and DCFC have done all in their power to secure a loan deal, but it didn't happen. I think your problem is that it doesn't suit your constant criticising to think that just maybe Butterfield's actually a decent bloke and good professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Sam Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 20 hours ago, The Arch Deacon said: Can’t help wondering if you understand what a transfer window is? you believe what you like pal,and so will i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Sam Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 22 hours ago, Mckram said: Because the window is shut? it was open a long time though wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: How do you know that. So he managed poor, expensive player that he is to get a loan club, but Butterfield didn't. I know that in exactly the same way you claim to know about what offers were on the table for Butterfield ie I don't A poster that appears to have information, which would be pretty bizarre to make up, has stated that there was interest from a handful of clubs for Butterfield, you have obviously chosen not to believe this. He/she has also stated that the deal was agreed and paperwork signed but this was submitted too late to the league, once again it appears that you do not believe this. It would also appear that Butterfield was in hospital for the birth if his child in the lead up to deadline day, do you not think this may have been a factor? Just because the deal did not get over the line it does not mean there was no interest or that Butterfield is happy to sit here 'bleeding the club dry'. Teams dice with death a bit as the deadline approaches, I would imagine in the hope of getting a better deal, sometimes that can be costly as we found out last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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