RamNut Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 5 hours ago, cannable said: Do you not need a certain number of staff to be Cat 1? Yes. From memory the min ratio was 1 coach to 8 academy players. again from memory, we had a total of 69 coaches / management staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 There's also the usual business practice of spending your budget because if you don't you'll not bloody well have it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, RadioactiveWaste said: There's also the usual business practice of spending your budget because if you don't you'll not bloody well have it again. Correct......in the civil service Budget is your only "product" and is guarded jealously. in business, you typically are rewarded for hitting KPIs first - miss those, and coming in "under budget" won't save you....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 13/06/2018 at 08:23, Spanish said: what is that they say , those that can do, those that can't teach? I’ve always thought this phrase should read ‘those who can, do. Those who can do it so well that they’re able to break it down into manageable chunks for other people to understand, teach.’ Much more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I’d be massively disappointed if we dropped to Cat 2. As the academy budget has no bearing on FFP, it would just show that Mel isn’t as invested as he once was. I wouldn’t blame him for the amount of stick he gets, but quite clearly worrying with regards to future prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Ambitious said: I’d be massively disappointed if we dropped to Cat 2. As the academy budget has no bearing on FFP, it would just show that Mel isn’t as invested as he once was. I wouldn’t blame him for the amount of stick he gets, but quite clearly worrying with regards to future prospects. Presumably a "re-examining" of what actually needs to be spent on the Cat 1 status has been done by the club (even if we are dropping to cat 2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorsforthRam Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 As an aside, up here in Leeds, they’ve flooded their U23 and U18 sides with dropouts from Barcelona, Real Madrid and Benfica academies. Don’t know if it will be successful but may fit better with their new manager.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, HorsforthRam said: As an aside, up here in Leeds, they’ve flooded their U23 and U18 sides with dropouts from Barcelona, Real Madrid and Benfica academies. Don’t know if it will be successful but may fit better with their new manager.. Interesting tactic to be fair. At what age are they getting recruited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Ambitious said: I’d be massively disappointed if we dropped to Cat 2. As the academy budget has no bearing on FFP, it would just show that Mel isn’t as invested as he once was. I wouldn’t blame him for the amount of stick he gets, but quite clearly worrying with regards to future prospects. Doubt whether its anything to do with stick. Its surely just that anyones pockets are only so deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorsforthRam Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, RamNut said: Interesting tactic to be fair. At what age are they getting recruited? I don’t know. I was just told by a parent of a lad who was on their books for a number of years, who was then dropped at 16 that the academy was now full of the afore mentioned youth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, HorsforthRam said: I don’t know. I was just told by a parent of a lad who was on their books for a number of years, who was then dropped at 16 that the academy was now full of the afore mentioned youth... The parent was probably exaggerating. Possibly bitter about their son being dropped. I can hear it now "damn foreigners coming over here taking all our academy places" It's a sad fact, that parents of young footballers need to accept and prepare their kids for, the vast majority of budding young stars of the future simply don't make it. Even being on the books of a major prem league club in no way guarantees success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorsforthRam Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: The parent was probably exaggerating. Possibly bitter about their son being dropped. I can hear it now "damn foreigners coming over here taking all our academy places" It's a sad fact, that parents of young footballers need to accept and prepare their kids for, the vast majority of budding young stars of the future simply don't make it. Even being on the books of a major prem league club in no way guarantees success. I hear what you’re saying and the parent may have exaggerated the numbers. Here’s an article from a Leeds source mentioning the point about the academy... https://www.google.co.uk/amp/the72.co.uk/105864/leeds-united-make-first-signing-youth-player/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/27/leeds-united-are-building-an-u23-squad-worthy-of-a-top-flight-si/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorsforthRam Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, RamNut said: http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/27/leeds-united-are-building-an-u23-squad-worthy-of-a-top-flight-si/ That fits with what I’ve been told. The Europeans in charge at Leeds obviously have good connections abroad. I’m envious of the way they are building tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Leeds new strategist.... http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11715/10850186/ivan-bravo-joins-leeds-united-board-as-director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, RamNut said: Leeds new strategist.... http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11715/10850186/ivan-bravo-joins-leeds-united-board-as-director Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Harford Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, RamNut said: Leeds new strategist.... http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11715/10850186/ivan-bravo-joins-leeds-united-board-as-director I liked his sister, Juliet, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mick Harford said: I liked his sister, Juliet, personally. And his brother, Rio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, bigbadbob said: And his brother, Rio. Well Done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 5 hours ago, HorsforthRam said: I don’t know. I was just told by a parent of a lad who was on their books for a number of years, who was then dropped at 16 that the academy was now full of the afore mentioned youth... A Leeds fan told me the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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