Interestedparty Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 There are several clubs who have relinquished cat one status for business reasons though Deciding that the compensation for losing young players doesn't make up for the extra investment needed Forest are cat two and have made way more profit from selling academy players last couple of years than many cat one clubs Being honest more down to luck than judgement I think at Forest. Your academy blows the Forest academy away in terms of facilities at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interestedparty Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 Anyway it may just be that you can still be cat one but save money at same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 The Academy has it's own budget now, seems pretty normal that they need to reign in overspending. Get rid of everything under 16.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 47 minutes ago, Spanish said: wum? He's not a wum, it's true what he is saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 34 minutes ago, Interestedparty said: I'm a Forest fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interestedparty Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: The Academy has it's own budget now, seems pretty normal that they need to reign in overspending. Get rid of everything under 16.. That would be going down to Cat 4! Below Burton Albion and Notts County and same as Mansfield Town Bit extreme! All you can do is officially sign players released from other clubs aged 16 if you are cat 4. You can still run junior teams under the age of 16 but have no protection from a pro club just cherry picking your best players with zero compensation every season. That's cat 4. There's no way with your facilities you will ever drop below cat 3 at the very least. Watford made a business decision to drop from cat one to cat three a few years ago which saves nearly 2m a season They since went back up to cat two I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 54 minutes ago, Interestedparty said: That would be going down to Cat 4! Below Burton Albion and Notts County and same as Mansfield Town Bit extreme! All you can do is officially sign players released from other clubs aged 16 if you are cat 4. You can still run junior teams under the age of 16 but have no protection from a pro club just cherry picking your best players with zero compensation every season. That's cat 4. There's no way with your facilities you will ever drop below cat 3 at the very least. Watford made a business decision to drop from cat one to cat three a few years ago which saves nearly 2m a season They since went back up to cat two I think The whole Cat system is flawed.. Would be interesting to see how many U8s, 9s & U10s make it to U16 or U18. The academy cost 6mil per annum. For what at those lower age groups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I think the academy will have a good year this year. A few coming through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 So Mel's invested heavily in the Academy and now we're having to cut costs as it's not sustainable? Thought that was one of the few things in his reign he had going for him? Can't be true, surely..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Don't tell Ramnut, but technically all the academy players owe their souls to Mel Morris and the academy has the right to refer them to "the farm" for processing if they disappoint him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Don't tell Ramnut, but technically all the academy players owe their souls to Mel Morris and the academy has the right to refer them to "the farm" for processing if they disappoint him. Wum The compensation system is nothing to do with MM. With regards to the action taken to reduce costs, they are doing absolutely the right thing. My observation that we were over-spending on it seems to have been justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, RamNut said: Wum The compensation system is nothing to do with MM. With regards to the action taken to reduce costs, they are doing absolutely the right thing. My observation that we were over-spending on it seems to have been justified. Yes I was WUMMing you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Yes I was WUMMing you. Why? because i happen to have expressed the view that if the FA want an elite performance plan and an academy system ultimately for the benefit of the national team then why not fund it? if they did we wouldn't have the silly compensation / transfer fees between clubs for 12 year olds. Sorry for holding a different opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, RamNut said: Sorry for holding a different opinion. You better be, that's not allowed round here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, RamNut said: Why? because i happen to have expressed the view that if the FA want an elite performance plan and an academy system ultimately for the benefit of the national team then why not fund it? if they did we wouldn't have the silly compensation / transfer fees between clubs for 12 year olds. Sorry for holding a different opinion. Thinking of hounding someone else out of the forum, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mr Giggles said: You better be, that's not allowed round here. In your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, eddie said: Thinking of hounding someone else out of the forum, are you? Lol. he wound himself up. I refrained from responding except to correct all the mis-quoting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, eddie said: Thinking of hounding someone else out of the forum, are you? For someone who likes expensive beers that seems like a cheap shot to me Eddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 hours ago, i-Ram said: I don’t know his name, but understand he was mint. Couldn’t play for Toffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I was WUMMing for laughs, the sake of it. To amuse myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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