MackworthRamIsGod Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I wondered where they were. I know we had used Pearce and also bought on Martin, but there didn't seem to be any warming up, not even our top scoring Vydra. I am sure there are very good reasons for it but it seemed strange to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I got the impression,both in the game and after, with rowetts interview,that he had given upon us getting a result by half time and didn't want to risk vydra in that circumstance. If so,that's not the attitude......we had chances in the last fifteen minutes to equalize and what happened to the never give up attitude that GR professes to hold dear?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_wilcockson Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Vydra apparently wasn't fit enough to play, so it was a waste of space having him on the bench if Rowett never had the intention of playing him. Should have put Luke Thomas there or Vernam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 With a bit of umph and half time action, this could have been another Ipswich 4-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, RamNut said: With a bit of umph and half time action, this could have been another Ipswich 4-4 It could,definitely......changes should have been made at half time....Mac and simmo wouldn't have given up that easily. Mind you it was still pretty exciting at the end I thought....not good but exciting. I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the needle between their keeper and Nugent and Martin....both got yellows for giving him a shove,which he rightly deserved. Great to see our strikers dishing it out,loved that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Bizarre not using that final sub. If Vydra wasn't fit then why not weimann or maybe Thorne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 It's a contrast with the Leeds game where his subs were excellent that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I do think the early change of Keogh affected the subsititutions, i was amazed we didnt do any at half time. Not using the final one sort of indicated the game was given up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Vydra and Thorne warmed yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 We went for it with the same team at the start of the second half yesterday, were all over them looking like we could get the goal before an inexplicable defensive error completely killed the game! Substitutions yesterday were irrelevant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkbyram Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I think we actually lost the game with the first substitute. Losing keogh’s passing ability is huge and I think it was a good opportunity to drop Huddlestone into the back 4 and put Thorne into midfield. Having Davies and Pearce as a back 2 changes everything about the way we’ve been playing recently as neither of them has the ability or confidence to step out with the ball. I hope, if keogh is out for a while, that we’d do this rather than playing Pearce. I’m sure Davies and Huddlestone would know each other’s game pretty well from their time at Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Kirkbyram said: I think we actually lost the game with the first substitute. Losing keogh’s passing ability is huge and I think it was a good opportunity to drop Huddlestone into the back 4 and put Thorne into midfield. Having Davies and Pearce as a back 2 changes everything about the way we’ve been playing recently as neither of them has the ability or confidence to step out with the ball. I hope, if keogh is out for a while, that we’d do this rather than playing Pearce. I’m sure Davies and Huddlestone would know each other’s game pretty well from their time at Hull. Good shout, the only hope for Huddlestone at the minute is in defence, he is woeful in midfield at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector was the best Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Good shout, the only hope for Huddlestone at the minute is in defence, he is woeful in midfield at the minute. Love Tom from way back, sad when the 3 amigo,s gave him away, but sorry to say he is to slow now especially for the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRBee Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 27 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said: We went for it with the same team at the start of the second half yesterday, were all over them looking like we could get the goal before an inexplicable defensive error completely killed the game! Substitutions yesterday were irrelevant! So the performance of the players on the pitch was so good none of them deserved consideration for being substituted? Don't know what game you were watching.When you are 2 or more goals behind there is always a case for making a substitution. The problem is Rowett doesn't sufficiently value what Thorne or Vydra might have offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 32 minutes ago, Kirkbyram said: I think we actually lost the game with the first substitute. Losing keogh’s passing ability is huge and I think it was a good opportunity to drop Huddlestone into the back 4 and put Thorne into midfield. Having Davies and Pearce as a back 2 changes everything about the way we’ve been playing recently as neither of them has the ability or confidence to step out with the ball. I hope, if keogh is out for a while, that we’d do this rather than playing Pearce. I’m sure Davies and Huddlestone would know each other’s game pretty well from their time at Hull. Great post. And moving TH back there sort of saves us a sub. Then later go 3 at the back and keep adding attacking players seemed sort of obvious when we we were 2 even 3 goals down. The “not risking Vydra” argument seems like he’d abandoned hope in the game and was saving him for the “big one” whatever that might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Woodley Ram said: Vydra and Thorne warmed yesterday What was the point of Vydra warming up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 hour ago, StringerBell said: What was the point of Vydra warming up? There wasn't other than he was cold! According to Gary he wasn't fit and fans don't know the full story, so my take is completely irrelevant him being there. Gaz don't half leave himself open to contradictory criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 56 minutes ago, Zag zig said: There wasn't other than he was cold! According to Gary he wasn't fit and fans don't know the full story, so my take is completely irrelevant him being there. Gaz don't half leave himself open to contradictory criticism. Yes he seems to like the 'don't know the full story' line. So come on the Gary, we are intrigued, do tell..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistaram Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Kirkbyram said: I think we actually lost the game with the first substitute. Losing keogh’s passing ability is huge and I think it was a good opportunity to drop Huddlestone into the back 4 and put Thorne into midfield. Having Davies and Pearce as a back 2 changes everything about the way we’ve been playing recently as neither of them has the ability or confidence to step out with the ball. I hope, if keogh is out for a while, that we’d do this rather than playing Pearce. I’m sure Davies and Huddlestone would know each other’s game pretty well from their time at Hull. No I think it would be better to bench Huddlestone Put Wisdom in with Davies and Baird at right back he played really well there earlier in the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 hours ago, StringerBell said: What was the point of Vydra warming up? Pass but he had a jog up and down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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