RadioactiveWaste Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: "The FA decided to move after top managers, led by Burnley’s Sean Dyche and West Brom boss Tony Pulis, flagged up concerns that games were increasingly decided by referees being hoodwinked by fall guys." Two of the most boring managers in the history of football joining forces. I can feel the tedium from here. Two managers who's "robust" teams are known for their "physicality" want less free kicks given against their teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 20 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: "The FA decided to move after top managers, led by Burnley’s Sean Dyche and West Brom boss Tony Pulis, flagged up concerns that games were increasingly decided by referees being hoodwinked by fall guys." Two of the most boring managers in the history of football joining forces. I can feel the tedium from here. "Top managers at achieving low expectations" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 What's everyone's favourite myths: Martin the diver? Keogh the worst defender at the club? Thorne will never play again? Etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: What's everyone's favourite myths: Martin the diver? Keogh the worst defender at the club? Thorne will never play again? Etc etc My favorite Derby based myth right now is the myth that a penalty kick represents a good scoring opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: My favorite Derby based myth right now is the myth that a penalty kick represents a good scoring opportunity. You mean, people actually believe that??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 15 hours ago, Alpha said: There's diving and then there's going down under minimal contact. It's very difficult to prove and draw the line when it comes to how little contact it takes for someone to go over. If you start saying it's diving if the ref feels he could have stayed on his feet... well that's a lot of diving from all players. If you stay on your feet then you never get a penalty which is ridiculous when someone is obstructing you What we need therefore Alpha is a three man panel consisting of an Ex-Ref, an Ex-player and an Ex-manager who all need to be in total agreement.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 3 hours ago, rammieib said: What we need therefore Alpha is a three man panel consisting of an Ex-Ref, an Ex-player and an Ex-manager who all need to be in total agreement.... I'm thinking split decisions and very few punishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dava75 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Martin definitely goes to ground easily and at times dives......see 15 mins and 52 seconds into the game on Saturday. This is the part of his game I haven't missed.... https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news?type=&archive=&category=matchday-live&display= Sorry if link doesn't work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tram Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Whether he dives or not, it seemed to me that there was a point after which referees seemed far less to side with Martin and the penalties dried up. At the time I thought that Martin must be flagged up in some sort of referees pre-match notes. If that's the case, and if a ref is in any doubt about a decision, I exited that they'll be more likely to decide against him, which'll be doubly worse if he gets a ban unfairly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I've never seen him dive,he goes down if he's pushed from behind but that's the oppositions fault and he often gets us a free kick in vital areas as a result...TO OUR BENEFIT!! What kind of derby fan doesn't want us to have any advantage we can get.opposition teams we play have no qualms about their own advantages gained by whatever means I'm sure It's one part of Martin's game that I have missed very much....as well as everything else he brings to the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantona Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Martin is renowned for "diving" (ie...cheating) In that Turf Moor match March 2014, Martin should have had a red card for elbowing Shackell in the face before he was sent off for the "penalty dive". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 57 minutes ago, Grantona said: Martin is renowned for "diving" (ie...cheating) In that Turf Moor match March 2014, Martin should have had a red card for elbowing Shackell in the face before he was sent off for the "penalty dive". You mean that one that was a stone wall penalty, cost us 6 points, gained you 3 points, and is a significant factor in you earning automatic promotion over us that season. Thanks for the reminder, I'm not bitter at all. Martin doesn't dive. He's clever, and he's too clever to do something as daft as diving. He draws contact, when he feels it, he makes sure the ref knows about it. What im proud tat he doesn't do, is that he doesn't roll around like he's been shot, and he doesn't wave imaginary cards. He uses every inch tgatvtge laws of the game allow to enable him to do his job and hold the ball up to take pressure off his team mates. He does it incredibly well. For saying how renowned he is for diving, how many cards has he actually had for diving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 On 8/1/2017 at 00:04, DesertRam said: I still think about that Burnley match, where he was sent off , then we score - and he clearly didn't dive, it was obvious that the defender stood on his toes. and that really hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 4 hours ago, Grantona said: Martin is renowned for "diving" (ie...cheating) In that Turf Moor match March 2014, Martin should have had a red card for elbowing Shackell in the face before he was sent off for the "penalty dive". Nah. Not biting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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