Dannyboz1884 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 This is my first Topic I have made so be gentle with me . I know there is a few people who have done bloated squad threads but I hope mine is a little different. I know not everyone will agree but remember I am basing this on if we sign two more players whoever that be. Right lets say we sign two more players, attacking players at that. Lets say the two players we buy are Lawrence and Toral for example!!!!!!!! The formation below maybe something like what you would expect. Carson (Wisdom) Keogh (Davies) Forsyth (Hudds) Johnson Russell (Toral) (Lawrence) Martin If we now think about the players missing from that line up, you will see it's a lot, bench players and fringe players.Possible Bench playersRoos/Mitchell - Depending on whether Mitchell is loaned for first team experience or not. Baird - Experience and can play in a number of positions to cover injuriesShackell - Will be happy to sit on the bench at 33 to cover after a very long injury. Could also swap with Pearce (see Fringe players for alternative)Thorne - If he comes back from injury soon like they say he will jsut rotate him after his long absence and Tom's arrival Butterfield - Will rotate a lot this seasonWeimann - Busy Rowett type of playerVydra - Will get more chances maybe Bent is now injuredNugent - Obvious really as he's our only other striker and Rowett again will like his work rate like Weimann We have got to start getting a few out the door soon whether it be loan or permanent we are far too bloated. Fringe playersPearce - I think Shackell will be happy to sit on the bench at 33 and be cover but I don't think Pearce will want another season at Derby like that and for me he will be behind Keogh and Davies. You could also look at it as Shackell is 33 and will want game time and Pearce is a really nice guy who I don't think would kick up a fuss about be back up. SellLowe - U23's and rotate with FozzyOlsson - Fozzy is first choice and I would have Lowe as back up like stated above. At a push we could bench McDonald. Could make a bit of money off Olsson. SellHanson - Not really good enough yet for me maybe a loan would do him good. Loan/SellElsnik - U23'sBryson - Not really been impressed in the friendlies even though I love the guy . SellAnya- Hnady player to keep as he plays many positions but doesn't make my team or bench so maybe look to sell?Bennett - Has looked good in Pre Season but I think Rowett will like Weimann and now Bent is injured maybe he will give Vydra more chances. If we don't sign two attacking players then he will definitely be involved this season.Blackman - Not really seen much of him but he's always injured and I don't think he's as good as what we already have. Sell Who do you guys think we will sign and who will go? Cheers for reading my long post Danny B X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Who will sign? - 1 decent attacking player (Lawrence) Who do I want to go? - Roos, Shackell, Olsson, Anya, Bent, Blackman - leaves a squad of 23 inc (Lawrence), Hanson, Lowe & Elsnik Who will go? - Roos, Blackman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboz1884 Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Saul Pimpson said: Who will sign? - 1 decent attacking player (Lawrence) Who do I want to go? - Roos, Shackell, Olsson, Anya, Bent, Blackman - leaves a squad of 23 inc (Lawrence), Hanson, Lowe & Elsnik Who will go? - Roos, Blackman Oops missed a few words out sorry. Lowe and Elsnik to be sold ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Not necessarily bloated, but a bit of a porker: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dannyboz1884 said: Oops missed a few words out sorry. Lowe and Elsnik to be sold ? No!!!!!!! I meant it would leave a squad of 23 including Hanson, Lowe & Elsnik... IE not bloated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DCFC1388 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Personally I think we should get rid of Roos, Keogh, Pearce, Bryson, Russell, Blackman, Bent (before he got injured) then loan out Guy, Hanson, Lowe + Bennett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, Saul Pimpson said: Who will sign? - 1 decent attacking player (Lawrence) Who do I want to go? - Roos, Shackell, Olsson, Anya, Bent, Blackman - leaves a squad of 23 inc (Lawrence), Hanson, Lowe & Elsnik Who will go? - Roos, Blackman Roos is probably just kept around in case Carson/Mitchell takes a serious injury. Always need a 3rd keeper on the books in case and I doubt he'll be on any big wages. As Bent has a long term injury I suspect he will have his wages paid for by the player insurance, essentially he can be counted as gone therefore Shackell and Blackman I can't see going while they have injuries, will probably get a loan if they get themselves together for pre-season. Similarly with Olsson, depending on whether Lowe can prove his fitness to become 2nd choice. Just leaves Anya, who I can't see going unless we sign a couple of wingers at least, if the plan is to always play with 2 wingers or 3 behind the striker this season GR will probably want 4/5 solid attackers as well as Martin/Nugent this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Contracts for Baird,Bent and Pearce expire next June so we'll have to put up with them for another year.I can see Roos leaving but we may have to pay off Blackman to go( that'd be expensive methinks!) I keep reading we're ok at left back but Fozzy is back after a long lay off,Olsson is a weakness in my eyes and Lowe is forever injured! I think we'll loan out Bennett and Hanson and progress Elsnik and McDonald.It all takes time and we just need a little patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 23 minutes ago, rcarso1 said: Contracts for Baird,Bent and Pearce expire next June so we'll have to put up with them for another year.I can see Roos leaving but we may have to pay off Blackman to go( that'd be expensive methinks!) I keep reading we're ok at left back but Fozzy is back after a long lay off,Olsson is a weakness in my eyes and Lowe is forever injured! I think we'll loan out Bennett and Hanson and progress Elsnik and McDonald.It all takes time and we just need a little patience. "Put up with" is a bit harsh especially in the case of Baird. One of our better players last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: "Put up with" is a bit harsh especially in the case of Baird. One of our better players last season. I agree on Baird.I may have been one of the few who wasn't moaning about him last year! Happy to see him here as cover for one more season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 1 minute ago, rcarso1 said: I agree on Baird.I may have been one of the few who wasn't moaning about him last year! Happy to see him here as cover for one more season. I think the moaners were very much in the minority especially as the season progressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 58 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Personally I think we should get rid of Roos, Keogh, Pearce, Bryson, Russell, Blackman, Bent (before he got injured) then loan out Guy, Hanson, Lowe + Bennett Davies on his own at the back? He's not Thuram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Keep Shackell (no minutes played in preseason) and sell Keogh? Glad you're not Gary Rowett... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 38 minutes ago, ViewsFromTheMiddle said: Davies on his own at the back? He's not Thuram. Id have Shackell when he is fit but id also get another CB in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Glad you aren't a manager for a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Thorne, Forsyth and Russell into the last year of their contracts too this season. Hope all can push on and earn new deals, but expect Russell to go for a cut price by January and I do fear for George. The bloated squad will be probably be largely sorted out in 2019 when a lot of contracts run out, older players and squad players let go and decisions to be taken on big earners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 When I think about the numbers I begin to feel a little bloated myself. Hopefully we will find a cure soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 The main issue is that many fans think the players in the squad that are outside the starting 11 are quality players and I think the players believe that themselves, when in reality they're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboz1884 Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 4 hours ago, RamLad1884 said: Roos is probably just kept around in case Carson/Mitchell takes a serious injury. Always need a 3rd keeper on the books in case and I doubt he'll be on any big wages. As Bent has a long term injury I suspect he will have his wages paid for by the player insurance, essentially he can be counted as gone therefore Shackell and Blackman I can't see going while they have injuries, will probably get a loan if they get themselves together for pre-season. Similarly with Olsson, depending on whether Lowe can prove his fitness to become 2nd choice. Just leaves Anya, who I can't see going unless we sign a couple of wingers at least, if the plan is to always play with 2 wingers or 3 behind the striker this season GR will probably want 4/5 solid attackers as well as Martin/Nugent this season I would like to see Mitchell go out on loan and get some experience or he will play about 3 cup games this season which isn't going to help. Then stick Roos on the bench. I know he's not as good as Mitchell but hopefully Carson won't get injured. Yeah I agree but I didn't even include him in my list of players so when he returns at Xmas that will be an extra player I personally think Shackell will stay. Blackman on the other hand I think will get a really late move towards the end of the transfer window. I like Lowe but his body is made of blancmange . I'm not a huge fane of Olsson so I would be happy with Fozzy and Lowe. I think Anya will stay but I still can't find a place on the bench for him if we bring in a winger and keep the current lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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