DEL Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Just now, Dimmu said: Will he start as a captain next season? Again? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Probably not. Why not, be better than some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Just now, RoyMac5 said: Why not, be better than some? Because we don't know who is in the team for next season. I agreed better than some players we have (currently) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 He doesn't need to be captain at all. No guarantee he will play every week, he fits the 'senior squad member' role perfectly and despite the rubbish he has to put up with Keogh is just fine as captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: ...and despite the rubbish he has to put up with Keogh is just fine as captain. We need a change of mindset in the squad and that can start with a new captain, at least. If Keogh is fine as captain, can you think of any examples of his leadership qualities out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Great news hopefully it does happen, been excellent all season, one of our most consistent players, a man I think needs to stay, right attitude worked hard to finally get his chance! He's the type of person that we need in the dressing room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Thoroughly deserved if he gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 34 minutes ago, Dimmu said: Will he start as a captain next season? Again? Wouldn't have thought so, he'll be cover I'd have thought. Wasn't the right call by Clement to make him captain, your captain should always be one of the first names on the team sheet or there's no point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohMartWright Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: he is also trustworthy in the way he plays the game. Did anyone else pick up on GR's choice of words here? Does this suggest that he believes others not to be so? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, OohMartWright said: Did anyone else pick up on GR's choice of words here? Does this suggest that he believes others not to be so? Thoughts? I took it to mean he could be trusted to do as was asked, but others perhaps couldn't be. Whether that was through their inability to isn't so obvious to me. But dunno really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Maybe contacts and player acquisitions aren't handled by the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Because he says a positive thing about one player doesn't necessarily mean it's a negative about others. He probably does mean that Baird can be trusted to do what he's told, but GR saying that should not lead us all to assume he's having a pop at others. He might say the same about them all if asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: We need a change of mindset in the squad and that can start with a new captain, at least. If Keogh is fine as captain, can you think of any examples of his leadership qualities out of interest? I don't think it is a case of him being an exceptional leader I just can't look at anyone else in the squad we currently have as an improvement. Keogh leads by example, for all the mistakes you can point to he never hides and never gives anything less than 100% to this club, which is more than you can say for a lot of the players at times. I don't think Baird would be a bad captain I just think at the age of 36 you cant expect him to play the bulk of a tough Championship season. Keogh at least guarantees that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Topram said: Great news hopefully it does happen, been excellent all season, one of our most consistent players, a man I think needs to stay, right attitude worked hard to finally get his chance! He's the type of person that we need in the dressing room First of all how is this news "great"? This is not even news really. We are again signing a player who hasn't been playing most of his time here ... and like the Blackman butterfield etc signings signing someone based on his temporary good form in a run of games. He's not exactly got much upside either. Second, how do you know he's the type of person we need in the dressing room? Have you been observing the dressing room dynamics? I like Baird but this is a very underwhelming re signing sorry to say. I'd rather see GR inspire Christie than go this route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ninos said: I'd rather see GR inspire Christie than go this route. We have yet to find out that GR is a miracle worker! The quotes about Baird from GR answer your questions about his character. I'm happy to see him for another year as long as he doesn't ever get thrown into midfield! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I'm slightly disappointed that we are not being more ambitious. baird has been ok. Nothing more. at 35 we really should be looking for younger better options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, RamNut said: I'm slightly disappointed that we are not being more ambitious. baird has been ok. Nothing more. If Baird has been just OK what has Christie been? Baird has been sound and decent in attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG400 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 " Rowett also said he wants to keep Chris Baird at Derby County next season. "I have had a conversation with him and my opinion is we should activate the clause," Rowett said. "He is exactly the type of player we want around in the group. "He has shown that not only is he very versatile, he is also trustworthy in the way he plays the game. "Just as importantly, his character is right for what we are looking for moving forward." This worries me , Chris Baird is a Safe player , I don't think he is an aggressive , high tempo player , but the element I don't like about him is his tendency to throw his arms in the air looking for someone to blame when it goes wrong , never a good sign in the office but even worse on a football pitch Personally I think we need two new right backs , A wisdom type player and a promising understudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, JG400 said: A Wisdom type player and a promising understudy Wisdom really wasn't that good. Baird is more than safe, and think of the goals he's set up or passes he's made when compared to Christie? Plus he's someone with good attitude which we need more of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Interesting debate about Baird and for me it has been his cool head under pressure and the number of times that he has been the one to set up the counter-attack that have impressed me. The worry is of course that he sometimes gets caught for speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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