Ghost of Clough Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Mostyn6 said: The point you're missing is that it's your better/best players that are the ones that failed! And the deadwood aren't even good enough to get into a failing team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernRam Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Rample said: Problem in that scenario is Ince doesn't get properly replaced by a senior player who will contribute near to what he did. I suspect Russell and whoever we deem has more experience/ fits the system/performs best in training from Vydra, Bennett, Weimann or Blackman starts and Watkins is initially an impact player at best. I'm kind of pro Watkins if he's seen as good enough by people more familiar than me, but only at a sensible price. £2m max and hefty add ons if he lives up to his potential. A large fee means it isn't a Jacobs or whoever we've had in the past cheap gamble, it's the fee we should be getting a first team improver for. We're not in a position to overpay for anyone who isn't capable of hitting the ground running this season. Very true, and it is promising to hear Rowett's comments about a very high quality replacement. But given the absence of Hughes, Ince, Hendrick - and potentially Christie - we'll lack any of the young exciting talent we saw in McClarens first two seasons. Bar Lowe - who I hope steps up to be an injury free first team regular next year - there is no substance for the future. No blooded youth players. Watkins and Irvine would add some of that back. For the record though, I too would prefer Jota as his replacement. Absolutely quality player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantona Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 20 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Not that much time season be here before we know. Yes...we should have a longer summer break. Start in September after cricket season is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 5 hours ago, SouthernRam said: Very true, and it is promising to hear Rowett's comments about a very high quality replacement. But given the absence of Hughes, Ince, Hendrick - and potentially Christie - we'll lack any of the young exciting talent we saw in McClarens first two seasons. Bar Lowe - who I hope steps up to be an injury free first team regular next year - there is no substance for the future. No blooded youth players. Watkins and Irvine would add some of that back. For the record though, I too would prefer Jota as his replacement. Absolutely quality player. I agree with Jota being absolute quality but the one I'd really like is Tom Lawrence from Leicester who was superb on loan to Ipswich last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernRam Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, rcarso1 said: I agree with Jota being absolute quality but the one I'd really like is Tom Lawrence from Leicester who was superb on loan to Ipswich last season. "...with the Foxes believed to want at least £10 million for a player who impressed on loan at Ipswich Town last season." Seems a bit pricey for one good season in this league. Maybe at £5m. If Keogh does go Sverrir Ingason of Granada has a £2.3 million release clause in his contract. Balanced, athletic centre half, senior international for Iceland and only 23 years of age. Only problem is Huddersfield and Leeds are both after him, but he seems happy to play in the Championship. Threat in the air too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 20 minutes ago, SouthernRam said: "...with the Foxes believed to want at least £10 million for a player who impressed on loan at Ipswich Town last season." Seems a bit pricey for one good season in this league. Maybe at £5m. If Keogh does go Sverrir Ingason of Granada has a £2.3 million release clause in his contract. Balanced, athletic centre half, senior international for Iceland and only 23 years of age. Only problem is Huddersfield and Leeds are both after him, but he seems happy to play in the Championship. Threat in the air too. £10m for a player at a Premiership club seems par for the course these days unfortunately.Having said that,I think the funds from Hughes and Ince sales should cover it.He's highly rated from what I read and wouldn't even have to move house! If we could get him in I'd be delighted,preferably as a signing,not a loan.As for the other player,he sounds decent but Rowett has already stated he wants to increase his attacking options and they don't come cheap.And the transfer window opens tomorrow!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Transfer windows already open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Ben marshall been linked with derby and leeds who plays in midfeild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Ben marshall been linked with derby and leeds who plays in midfeild. He's a good all round midfield player and would offer that utility player to the ranks a good championship player IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 I wander if derby might try to sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 How about Oussama Idrissi, pacy right/left winger 21 years old from FC Groningen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Aidan McGeady? Callum McManaman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffle Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Bit of a long shot... Pozo was tipped to be the next big thing at Man City, he even played at PP against our u21s. His career fell foul to an injury but he's had a good season at Almeria. Felix Kroos instead of a Glenn Whelan, he wins the ball and lays it off, and has the ability to grab a midfield by the scruff of its necks. Ryan Ledson, previously mentioned on here. Fantastic attitude for wanting first team opportunities, wins the ball, lays it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 3 hours ago, EnigmaRam said: Transfer windows already open. Thought it opened on July 1st and closed on Thursday August 31st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, rcarso1 said: Thought it opened on July 1st and closed on Thursday August 31st See link below for the transfer dates information etc. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12691/10862752/when-does-the-transfer-window-open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, rcarso1 said: Thought it opened on July 1st and closed on Thursday August 31st Opened 9th June as already stated, argued and proven many times on this very forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, EnigmaRam said: Opened 9th June as already stated, argued and proven many times on this very forum. Can't trust anything these days! " When does the transfer window open in England? Clubs will already have started doing their business and looking ahead to next season, releasing players and making signings. But the 2017 summer window officially opens on July 1. The 2017 Confederations Cup takes place from June 17-July 2 [with Russia, New Zealand, Portugal, Mexico, Cameroon, Chile, Australia and Germany taking part], but that is the only international tournament taking place, allowing most players to rest up and secure transfers earlier in the off-season. When does the summer transfer window close? Deadline Day will take place on August 31, closing at 11pm and talkSPORT will have all the biggest moves covered throughout the day." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, rcarso1 said: Can't trust anything these days! " When does the transfer window open in England? Clubs will already have started doing their business and looking ahead to next season, releasing players and making signings. But the 2017 summer window officially opens on July 1. The 2017 Confederations Cup takes place from June 17-July 2 [with Russia, New Zealand, Portugal, Mexico, Cameroon, Chile, Australia and Germany taking part], but that is the only international tournament taking place, allowing most players to rest up and secure transfers earlier in the off-season. When does the summer transfer window close? Deadline Day will take place on August 31, closing at 11pm and talkSPORT will have all the biggest moves covered throughout the day." There's your problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, rcarso1 said: Can't trust anything these days! " When does the transfer window open in England? Clubs will already have started doing their business and looking ahead to next season, releasing players and making signings. But the 2017 summer window officially opens on July 1. The 2017 Confederations Cup takes place from June 17-July 2 [with Russia, New Zealand, Portugal, Mexico, Cameroon, Chile, Australia and Germany taking part], but that is the only international tournament taking place, allowing most players to rest up and secure transfers earlier in the off-season. When does the summer transfer window close? Deadline Day will take place on August 31, closing at 11pm and talkSPORT will have all the biggest moves covered throughout the day." Read the link above that DEL put on mate. How else did we sign Davies and Watford sign Hughes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, EnigmaRam said: Read the link above that DEL put on mate. How else did we sign Davies and Watford sign Hughes? Thanks both?-bloody Talksport!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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