oldtimeram Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Clough and McClaren as a pairing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Tell you what, if I was a manager I would not be applying for the job if Pearson was given the chop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound 2 tease Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 12 hours ago, Ram79 said: Even though he is a ****** I think Warnock would get us playing to our strengths I'm not against Steve Bruce either but definitely not Chris powell nice bloke but not what we need. But he'd be our ***** , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound 2 tease Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 30 minutes ago, oldtimeram said: Clough and McClaren as a pairing Can't see it happening , but Clough'd be worth it just to p*** off Sam Rush. Too many poor decisions at the top of the club, to be solely a naive owner . Somebody may well be whispering in Mel's ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Let's not all Rush to answer that eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raminphilippines Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 12 hours ago, Papahet said: Why are people wanting Wassall back? Oh let me guess, he played 433 Nothing to do with 433 just down to the fact he could get the players motivated and get them tp put their heart into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 3 hours ago, Raminphilippines said: Nothing to do with 433 just down to the fact he could get the players motivated and get them tp put their heart into it. Like he got them motivated for the first leg game you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Papahet said: Like he got them motivated for the first leg game you mean? Walsall as hit and miss, but it's better to be hit and miss rather than just constantly miss like Pearson is doing. Besides, Walsall was barely 5 months into his first managerial job, he was still learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, PodgeyRam said: Walsall as hit and miss, but it's better to be hit and miss rather than just constantly miss like Pearson is doing. Besides, Walsall was barely 5 months into his first managerial job, he was still learning. Pearson is barely 4 months into his tenure here, he's still learning. Or are you like everyone and going on his Leicester sin to wave a magic wand on these once, twice, three times a bottle job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Papahet said: Pearson is barely 4 months into his tenure here, he's still learning. Or are you like everyone and going on his Leicester sin to wave a magic wand on these once, twice, three times a bottle job? Wassall got 8 minutes. The last 8 minutes at Rotherham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Papahet said: Pearson is barely 4 months into his tenure here, he's still learning. Or are you like everyone and going on his Leicester sin to wave a magic wand on these once, twice, three times a bottle job? He's not learning in the same way Wassall was and you know it. There is a big difference between someone 5 mnths into their first managerial job and a man with 10 years experience starting at a new club. Pearson has had a long managerial career, and if he had any common sense about him he would have done his homework on our squad before the players arrived back for pre-season. These bottle jobs as you put it have been in the top six of the league for the better part of three years. No matter who the manager has been they have been up there. It's remarkable how bad Pearson has managed to make us over the course of two months. If I wasn't so certain he's simply an arrogant fool I would suggest that he's deliberately sabotaging us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Gary Rowett for me. Also likeed the football under McClaren but too many fans of ours dislike him. Warburton is also a very good manager...intelligent and has a very good way of communicating. It wouldn't take much to get this squad playing again; put Wassall back in charge for an interim period until the right man becomes available. We have some good youngsters at the Club...it's time we saw Farend Rawson and Max Lowe stepping up. I also think we need to move a few misfits on...we all know who they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ellafella said: .....put Wassall back in charge for an interim period until the right man becomes available.... Sounds familiar. At least he wouldn't have to worry about playing Hull at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 36 minutes ago, PodgeyRam said: He's not learning in the same way Wassall was and you know it. There is a big difference between someone 5 mnths into their first managerial job and a man with 10 years experience starting at a new club. Pearson has had a long managerial career, and if he had any common sense about him he would have done his homework on our squad before the players arrived back for pre-season. These bottle jobs as you put it have been in the top six of the league for the better part of three years. No matter who the manager has been they have been up there. It's remarkable how bad Pearson has managed to make us over the course of two months. If I wasn't so certain he's simply an arrogant fool I would suggest that he's deliberately sabotaging us. These players haven't shown anything from day one of his tenure here, what's Pearson suppose to do if they simply don't want to play for him? What homework is their to do on this squad? Other than we've played 433 till it bored the players to death, Martins goals dried up, Thornes a liability with the injuries oh and guess what? We are still a Championship side now most likely restricted by FFP. These players are arrogant if anyone is. They show no fight, no bottle when the going gets tough. How many games did we take our foot off the gas last season alone and ended up either getting beat or a side crawling their way back when we were in a healthy position? Rotherham last season, Brum at home the season under Mac, so many games we just stopped altogether. They are mentality weak players, Wassall was a soft touch and had no authority over them, Shackells public behaviour towards him shown that. Pearson won't take that kind of **** from these players, hence why I believe Shackell injury is most likely a cover up and Chris Martin is no longer. It'll come good, have faith. Sure these players have had near misses with promotion - that's evidence they aren't quite good enough surely? It's got to be a head **** continually failing and still getting rewarded with 20-30 grand a week. It went downhill when we gave crazy contracts out for fun i.e Bryson - he couldn't wait to get up to Burnley, only doing a U-turn when we were stupid enough to give him a ridiculous 5 year deal and suddenly he loves the club again..ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammeister Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Alf James. Used to have a shop on Green Lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 22 minutes ago, Papahet said: These players haven't shown anything from day one of his tenure here, what's Pearson suppose to do if they simply don't want to play for him? What homework is their to do on this squad? Other than we've played 433 till it bored the players to death, Martins goals dried up, Thornes a liability with the injuries oh and guess what? We are still a Championship side now most likely restricted by FFP. These players are arrogant if anyone is. They show no fight, no bottle when the going gets tough. How many games did we take our foot off the gas last season alone and ended up either getting beat or a side crawling their way back when we were in a healthy position? Rotherham last season, Brum at home the season under Mac, so many games we just stopped altogether. They are mentality weak players, Wassall was a soft touch and had no authority over them, Shackells public behaviour towards him shown that. Pearson won't take that kind of **** from these players, hence why I believe Shackell injury is most likely a cover up and Chris Martin is no longer. It'll come good, have faith. Sure these players have had near misses with promotion - that's evidence they aren't quite good enough surely? It's got to be a head **** continually failing and still getting rewarded with 20-30 grand a week. It went downhill when we gave crazy contracts out for fun i.e Bryson - he couldn't wait to get up to Burnley, only doing a U-turn when we were stupid enough to give him a ridiculous 5 year deal and suddenly he loves the club again..ha ha I wonder how they are meant to impress him when near enough all of his tactics are geared towards the weaknesses of the players. Homework? Could've seen that the likes of Hughes and Bryson are far less efffective when they are forced to play deeper like they were at times last season and that their better performances came when they were allowed the freedom to get forward. He could've seen that Weimann was poor when played on the wing last season and only really played well when Wassall basically played him as an inside left forward. He could've seen that Shackell's weakness was passing out from the back and given how important passing out from the back is these days lined up a replacement. He could've seen that Martin thrived when players were allowed to get up close team and when this happpened the team played well. He could've seen any number of things simply by watching tapes of last seasons matches. He either didn't do this, did and missed it all, or did and simply decided to plow on anyway forcing players in to positions that do not suit them. This so called rebuilding job either didn't need to happen in which case we only needed a couple of additions (a DM, RB and Winger). Or it did, in which case he could have sold some of our in demand players who wouldn't fit his preffered system and bring in others. I find hard to believe Pearson couldn't have found a buyer for the likes of Hughes, Russell and Keogh. No, it all reeks of either stupidity, half-heartedness or simple arrogance. As for the whole near miss thing. That would suggest that we need a tweak or two to get up, not a complete rebuild. A player here, a player there - not a complete turnaround in the squad. You don't get the playoffs when you are in need of a complete rebuild, it simply doesn't happen. I have no faith in this manager who from all accounts had the likes Shakespeare at Leicester to paper over cracks with the players, Walsh to find the likes of Mahrez and Kante. A manager who only stumbled upon a solution to keep Leicester up at which point it was nearly too late. The same Leicester that won the league the next season without him. He's a man who's got by for far too long on the talents of his assistants and noww he doesn't have them to hold him up he's folding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarodyDCFC Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Has anyone mentioned Ryan Giggs yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 20 hours ago, Inglorius said: Mark Hughes will be out of a job soon I like Sparky he builds solid teams but he would fail at Derby because he is a long view, deliberate and precise sort of guy who needs time and we have no patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarodyDCFC Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, PodgeyRam said: I wonder how they are meant to impress him when near enough all of his tactics are geared towards the weaknesses of the players. Homework? Could've seen that the likes of Hughes and Bryson are far less efffective when they are forced to play deeper like they were at times last season and that their better performances came when they were allowed the freedom to get forward. He could've seen that Weimann was poor when played on the wing last season and only really played well when Wassall basically played him as an inside left forward. He could've seen that Shackell's weakness was passing out from the back and given how important passing out from the back is these days lined up a replacement. He could've seen that Martin thrived when players were allowed to get up close team and when this happpened the team played well. He could've seen any number of things simply by watching tapes of last seasons matches. He either didn't do this, did and missed it all, or did and simply decided to plow on anyway forcing players in to positions that do not suit them. This so called rebuilding job either didn't need to happen in which case we only needed a couple of additions (a DM, RB and Winger). Or it did, in which case he could have sold some of our in demand players who wouldn't fit his preffered system and bring in others. I find hard to believe Pearson couldn't have found a buyer for the likes of Hughes, Russell and Keogh. No, it all reeks of either stupidity, half-heartedness or simple arrogance. As for the whole near miss thing. That would suggest that we need a tweak or two to get up, not a complete rebuild. A player here, a player there - not a complete turnaround in the squad. You don't get the playoffs when you are in need of a complete rebuild, it simply doesn't happen. I have no faith in this manager who from all accounts had the likes Shakespeare at Leicester to paper over cracks with the players, Walsh to find the likes of Mahrez and Kante. A manager who only stumbled upon a solution to keep Leicester up at which point it was nearly too late. The same Leicester that won the league the next season without him. He's a man who's got by for far too long on the talents of his assistants and noww he doesn't have them to hold him up he's folding. "Could've seen that the likes of Hughes and Bryson are far less effective when they are forced to play deeper like they were at times last season and that their better performances came when they were allowed the freedom to get forward." Will Hughes hardly played a game last season mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, JarodyDCFC said: "Could've seen that the likes of Hughes and Bryson are far less effective when they are forced to play deeper like they were at times last season and that their better performances came when they were allowed the freedom to get forward." Will Hughes hardly played a game last season mate When he came back for the last 5 games or so. Against Hull at home for the playoffs, played deeper - played worse. Hull away, Brighton away, played futher forward - was much better. Even then, he does have the option of going back to the season before - the club keeps tapes of the matches. If he feels he doesn't know enough about the player from last season (which is fair enough given how long he was injured for), he does have the option to go further back, or even ask Gareth Southgate for his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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