Ambitious Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 4 hours ago, europia said: Tom Ince has been at the club a tad longer than the new manager though. He has also had plenty of opportunities to stake his place in the team. In the time he's been here, he's been a large reason to why we have been one of the best attacking teams in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 5 hours ago, Coconut said: Exactly. When he was at his best (on loan) it was when played with Bent, because for some reason opposition teams still believed that Bent had pace - they'd be busy worrying themselves about what he was doing and it would open up the space for Tom Ince. That still stood in 2015/16 on the rare occasion they played together (Bristol being the obvious one), but now I think other teams have finally realised that Bent is shot and hardly needs worrying about. If you put Ince in a team that isn't full of pace and moving the ball quickly then his lack of awareness in tight spaces, his tendency to take 5 touches when 2 will do, and his insistence on getting it on his left foot all become an issue. Ironically, with the signings of Vydra (especially) and WIlson/Anya, we have some players who the opposition might have the same 'fear factor' about with their pace, which would open up the space for Ince, and he isn't playing! ps, What the hell has happened to his ability to take a free kick? Good on loan, but absolutely turd for a whole season. Maybe you could put that down to confidence, but I don't think it should make such a dramatic difference to dead ball situations. Yes I would have liked to see him play with Anya. Ince likes to cut inside, Anya can take a man on and can go wide. So having both would give the oppo a major headache. But I dont think theyve had any gametime together . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I blame Tom Ince for the chances we missed when he was on the bench..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 34 minutes ago, PistoldPete2 said: Yes I would have liked to see him play with Anya. Ince likes to cut inside, Anya can take a man on and can go wide. So having both would give the oppo a major headache. But I dont think theyve had any gametime together . I'm not sure whether Anya has beaten his man on the outside once in either of the last two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 42 minutes ago, eddie said: I'm not sure whether Anya has beaten his man on the outside once in either of the last two games. He is joint top scorer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Our strikers are reminding me of the deaf stunt man from the Fast Show. When Kev Phillips said " Make sure you're clinical in front of goal " I thought you said scoring goals is not my role. Anyway in my opinion I would like to see Dean Saunders in as forwards coach great striker great sense of humour which is needed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Not saying its all KP's fault but since he came in as coach our finishing has gotten far worse than the Earnshaw and Miller days. Our lot were prolific before his arrival and now they couldn't hit a donkey's arse with a banjo. That a coincidence or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Grooves Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 13 hours ago, IlsonDerby said: Under Wassall our form was that of play off contenders. 1.68 points per game gets us in the play offs 2 out of the last 3 seasons (coincidentally the 2 years we did make it in). That was with the same mentally weak squad. The same bunch of players who 'don't care'. For me Pearson has to get us to above 75 points this season otherwise a better manager has taken this squad backwards from somebody who runs our academy and is still employed by us. (Wassall had to contend with getting us out of a bad place under Clement, Pearson came in with a clean slate and the whole summer to work on things) i will give Pearson time but as far he isn't covering himself in glory. Didnt Clement get us to top of the league for a bit too? Wassall wouldnt have done well with us if he had stayed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Grooves Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 ... but we pretty useless at the mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Jon_Grooves said: Didnt Clement get us to top of the league for a bit too? Wassall wouldnt have done well with us if he had stayed on. What are next week's lottery numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth's left foot Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Ince will get a start on Tuesday and the opposition will give him a big opportunity to showcase his talent, he needs to be pushing for a start along with BJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 10 hours ago, Jon_Grooves said: Didnt Clement get us to top of the league for a bit too? Wassall wouldnt have done well with us if he had stayed on. Do you have any evidence of this? We can both guess haha. Is suggest he wouldn't have done worse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Ince is really being punished for that Burton performance. Good god. (And Johnson for misplayed passes in Game 1). Let it go, Nigel ... and leading 1-0 away with a bit to go is Johnson time not ince time. Both players can win games and should be given the opportunity to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Looks like the wake call arrived with a manager who tries to use him with his game talents - simple really why couldn't Pearson do that with everybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The way Pearson used Ince was like a homeless bloke using a £20 note to wipe his arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Looks like the wake call arrived with a manager who tries to use him with his game talents - simple really why couldn't Pearson do that with anybody? Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixman1884 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 On 9/14/2016 at 00:11, Millenniumram said: I think it'll be a different manager who knows what he's doing and starts playing him, because he's on of the best wingers in the division, unlike butterfield who, a good player as he is, is a bloody centre mid! Quoted for truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, wixman1884 said: Quoted for truth! Haha does look like I sometimes know what I'm talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Haha does look like I sometimes know what I'm talking about We never doubted you for a minute. It was the rest of the time that was the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, wixman1884 said: Quoted for truth! I'm still absolutely adamant that 90% of this forum would have done a better job than Pearson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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