Warren Hobhead Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Can Curtains post his team again? Not sure I caught it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perseus Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Isn't Pearson a long exponent of a classic 4-3-3 which can quickly convert to 4-4-2 by drawing the winger (Knockaert when he played for Leicester) deeper? I think this system (also employed by Capello) is the best tactical formation (bar none) but it depends on the players and opponents. Hughton is a long term exponent of 4-4-2 which is more like 4-2-4 for Brighton. The two central midfielders get over-worked. Derby (surfeit of midfielders) v Brighton (surfeit of wingers). I don't think the fixtures should have put what could be the Championship decider as the first match of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 53 minutes ago, Perseus said: Isn't Pearson a long exponent of a classic 4-3-3 which can quickly convert to 4-4-2 by drawing the winger (Knockaert when he played for Leicester) deeper? I think this system (also employed by Capello) is the best tactical formation (bar none) but it depends on the players and opponents. Hughton is a long term exponent of 4-4-2 which is more like 4-2-4 for Brighton. The two central midfielders get over-worked. Derby (surfeit of midfielders) v Brighton (surfeit of wingers). I don't think the fixtures should have put what could be the Championship decider as the first match of the season. We haven't seen this at Derby, at least not in preseason. We've been playing mostly a 4-4-1-1 (Ince behind Bent), with a 4-4-2 as a plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I have a good feeling about this one I dont think the result will be spectacular but I think we will be effective. Lineup: Carson Christie Keogh Shackell Forsyth Blackman Hendrick Hughes Russell Ince Bent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perseus Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 21 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: We haven't seen this at Derby, at least not in preseason. We've been playing mostly a 4-4-1-1 (Ince behind Bent), with a 4-4-2 as a plan B. Virtually every Champiosnhip club played 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 (better) last season, except a few, Boro, QPR played the more defensive 4-2-3-1. Any team that breaks the mould might spring a few surprise results. 4-3-3 can change to 4-42 so quickly that it might not matter that much. Playing 4-2-3-1 at home like Boro last season didn't deserve to get promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonBHA Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Stockdale Rosenior Bruno Dunk Bong Knockaert Sidwell Kayal Murphy Hemed Baldock Subs: Maenpaa, White, Ince, Holla, LuaLua, Skalak, Murray. That would probably be my team for Saturday assuming there are no reinforcements this week. Stephens will be a big miss and strange having Bruno at centre back although he looked decent against Lazio in that position yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, SimonBHA said: Stockdale Rosenior Bruno Dunk Bong Knockaert Sidwell Kayal Murphy Hemed Baldock Subs: Maenpaa, White, Ince, Holla, LuaLua, Skalak, Murray. That would probably be my team for Saturday assuming there are no reinforcements this week. Stephens will be a big miss and strange having Bruno at centre back although he looked decent against Lazio in that position yesterday. I'd play Ince. He always seems to be a beast against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETRA Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Fortunately for us Stephens will be a big miss for Brighton on Saturday. From what I saw last season his partnership with Kayal in the midfield was probably the best in the Championship. Sidwell although experienced is not the same threat & is often very inconsistent unlike Stephens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonBHA Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Srg said: I'd play Ince. He always seems to be a beast against us. He's better in a midfield 3 really, physically commanding but not the best technically. Think it was his sloppy back pass that led to you winning that last minute penalty to equalise against us last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 2 hours ago, SimonBHA said: Stockdale Rosenior Bruno Dunk Bong Knockaert Sidwell Kayal Murphy Hemed Baldock Subs: Maenpaa, White, Ince, Holla, LuaLua, Skalak, Murray. That would probably be my team for Saturday assuming there are no reinforcements this week. Stephens will be a big miss and strange having Bruno at centre back although he looked decent against Lazio in that position yesterday. How are you expecting to get on this season mate? do you think you can replicate last season or even maybe even go one better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 16 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: Is this the official match thread? Might as well be but we probably need some sort of indication in titles or at least pinning for the new season. I'm concerned Hughes didn't start against the Germans and might havve been played out of position in pre-season. Bent has scored three in three so has to start with the shirt. We're surely going to play 4-4-1-1. On the Brighton board they're expecting a draw or a narrow Rams' win. We've some tough opening games and it's oh so important to capitalize on home advantage in the games against our promotion rivals (of whom Brighton will be one). I'm not saying I agree with it but I suspect the starting 11 is going to be: Carson Christie Keogh Shackell Forsyth Blackman Hendrick Johnson Hughes Ince Bent Subs: Grant Pearce Baird Bryson Weimann Martin Russell Guessing Butterfield and Olsson will be deemed unfit for this one. Despite moving several on we've still a massive squad. I still expect Hendrick to be sold before the end of the window, but if Pearson wants to have any chance of keeping him then he has no choice but to start him. Blackman played 90 minutes in the last friendly so I think he has the nod. We would have an embarrassment of midfield riches on the bench or not even making the bench. Cs - Swap Hughes and Johnson position-wise and I think you've nailed the Saturday side. I just hope he starts Bryson over Hendrick. Then it's our best side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDerby Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 8 minutes ago, Ninos said: Cs - Swap Hughes and Johnson position-wise and I think you've nailed the Saturday side. I just hope he starts Bryson over Hendrick. Then it's our best side. Bryson over Hendrick all day for me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 hour ago, JoeDerby said: Bryson over Hendrick all day for me too! Hendrick over Bryson for me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 31 minutes ago, Mafiabob said: Hendrick over Bryson for me..... I don't know enough about their team to call that one. I've aLways felt Bryson and his 100% energy works well .. He has real bite against certain players but Hendrick when he runs at them with the ball in the final third can make a real difference. Just depends who their opposite numbers are on the day. Interesting one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 9 minutes ago, jono said: I don't know enough about their team to call that one. I've aLways felt Bryson and his 100% energy works well .. He has real bite against certain players but Hendrick when he runs at them with the ball in the final third can make a real difference. Just depends who their opposite numbers are on the day. Interesting one ! interesting jono, and I'd agree that Hendrick can slice and dice, but I think we have Ince and Hughes (and even Blackman) for that. If we are 2 in the middle and one isn't Johnson I think Bryson has to be in there for the bite that you reference ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I reckon you're right. i really liked Johnson when he came. We had lacked genuine in your face aggression in the middle. Bryson and Hendrick both were raiding and in certain games if that didn't come off then the DM lacked support. So yes, of the two Bryson has more terrier about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Ninos said: interesting jono, and I'd agree that Hendrick can slice and dice, but I think we have Ince and Hughes (and even Blackman) for that. If we are 2 in the middle and one isn't Johnson I think Bryson has to be in there for the bite that you reference ! Harking back a bit I know but I always think of the Roy Keane roll in midfield for ManU ., or Vierra, or Makale .. The one who's tough and can play it simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 If I was a manager, I'd have wanted one more training game just to try something bit different. Like Hughes as a CM, Ince on the wing and Martin as a number 10 with Bent up front. But there's maybe too much creativity for Pearson so why bother. I wouldn't even play with 4-4-1-1 but I'm trying to make some kind of starting line up with it.. Usual back 5. Blackman-Johnson-Hughes-Weimann Ince Bent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCArmy Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Carson Christie Keogh Shacks Olsson Weimann Hughes Hendrick Blackman Ince Bent I'd love us to go this route and finally find another system that doesn't rely on two players.. Bents been scoring a few and Blackman despite only looking ok so far looks to be up for it and deserves a chance. ince and bent could score freely in this league imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 When everyone is fit, Is this still the dream team ??????? Carson Christie Keogh shackell forsythe Thorne Bryson Hughs Hendrick Ince Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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