Van der MoodHoover Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Just watching Championship Tonight which opened with Rams v Bolton and then went into a bit of a Bolton valedictory with Phil Brown attempting to wax lyrical. An interesting stat was put up about previous premier league clubs falling into league 1 or equivalent and how long they've stayed down there. I must confess I feel for the Bolton fans. A club similar to us in some respects but completely different in terms of businessmodel for some years and that is seemingly weighing them down now. To my mind it's a salutary lesson in the dangers of over extending yourself in what appear to be the good times only to come a cropper subsequently. With that in mind, the riches on offer in the premier league, and the infrastructure at the top championship clubs this season do my fellow posters think there may be any Boltons of the future amongst the promotion hopefuls? If so, which and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robglosta Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Leeds can't be far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCArmy Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 I like Bolton so seeing them how they are the minute isn't nice , I wish them a quick return and hope they can get back on their feet financially and get back to where they belong. We had some right good games against them in the late 90s at their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Nah Rob, it's about 40 mile across the M62. Seriously, I don't know much about Bolton's predicament, was it the late Mr Gartside's tenure and paying wages they couldn't really afford to compete to stay in the Premiership ? Thinking of Leeds no Portsmouth's models I think they have served as a lesson and clubs will be more prudent and take the long term view yeah Premier League football would be great but a well run club will bring it's own rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 1 hour ago, robglosta said: Leeds can't be far away. pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 2 hours ago, robglosta said: Leeds can't be far away. Cellino might make some stupid decisions, but Leeds are actually pretty decent financially and he reduced losses by 91%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Decent club and hope they come back sooner rather than later. It would appear they've been badly run to get into this mess - I would consider them to be naturally able to sustain a good championship side indefinitely with occasional forays upwards in the usual run of things. But then, in the usual run of things doesn't count for much, for a long time that's the bracket Coventry lived in for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Simply lived miles beyond their means for far too many years, signing Okocha, djorkeff etc etc and it is coming back to bite them now. So no sympathy really, they lived the dream and are paying for it now, just like Portsmouth etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: Simply lived miles beyond their means for far too many years, signing Okocha, djorkeff etc etc and it is coming back to bite them now. So no sympathy really, they lived the dream and are paying for it now, just like Portsmouth etc. The trouble is, chairmen and owners can ruin clubs whilst trying to massage their own egos, then walk away when it goes pear-shaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCArmy Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 1 minute ago, eddie said: The trouble is, chairmen and owners can ruin clubs whilst trying to massage their own egos, then walk away when it goes pear-shaped. The chairmans need to take responsibility when this happens, unfortunately gartside can't because he's sadly not with us anymore.. but chairmans who run clubs like Pompey into the ground should take full responsibility imo and I'd heavily fine them and not the club.. its the fans who always suffer and its the fans who always stay when the s*** hits the fan,, so full respect to those Bolton fans who did turn up yesterday, their a credit to their club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 52 minutes ago, DCFCArmy said: The chairmans need to take responsibility when this happens, unfortunately gartside can't because he's sadly not with us anymore.. but chairmans who run clubs like Pompey into the ground should take full responsibility imo and I'd heavily fine them and not the club.. its the fans who always suffer and its the fans who always stay when the s*** hits the fan,, so full respect to those Bolton fans who did turn up yesterday, their a credit to their club. I would also not forget to proportion some of that blame on the toss pot of a manager who was blowing all that money at Portsmouth on rubbish expensive players....now where is he now....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 19 hours ago, TheDeadlySaul said: Cellino might make some stupid decisions, but Leeds are actually pretty decent financially and he reduced losses by 91%. You have to go and spoil it don't you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 This thread talks about Chairmen with Egos ruining clubs AND Portsmouth spending... Bleedin heck...wish I'd never clicked on it now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Bolton fans once came to the Baseball Ground and paid tribute to Derby in our 1980's promotion season. They appreciated that having Derby in their league we attracted crowds and took a good following to away grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I hope the Bolton fans stay with their club. They have had their day in the sun and are paying for it now like Muespach says, but its npt the fans fault. The fans were there before the premier years and hopefully will remain loyal. There must be a new breed of trotter who have grown up in the top flight and will not be dragged away to the big city lights on their doorstep. Any Bolton lad will always be more respected for supporting them than the half and half scarf wearing fookers down the road. Bolton have a decent history, 73 years in the top flight, 4 FA Cup wins and Nat Lofthouse, one of England's finest. Its usually a decent day out up there as well so I wish them all the best and a speedy return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Get Trevor birch in, he will get the debt wiped without a penalty, he has form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Feel sorry for Bolton must be horrible as a fan and horrible for the normal people that have jobs at the club and work their for a normal living. Catering staff, groundsmen club shop etc it could have easily been us if it wasnt for the yanks and cloughie cutting the wage bill, keeping us up and doing a splendid job rebuilding. It was rubbish when we were lowering the wage bill and getting rid of the deadwood but in all its laid some solid foundations and we could have easily done a bolton. Good luck to them hope they bounce back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 16 hours ago, LesterRam said: Get Trevor birch in, he will get the debt wiped without a penalty, he has form Already there isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Just now, rynny said: Already there isn't he? wow, yeah and I was only kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Just now, LesterRam said: wow, yeah and I was only kidding Wasn't sure if you put it knowing he was or with the links to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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