B4ev6is Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I think buxton shown he can come On in tight games and help the lads to finish the job and afaird to get stuck in and keep in oppersition faces. He is a good passer of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Unfortunate line break there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Sorry but i cant help only type so far and wont do a line space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 9 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Sorry but i cant help only type so far and wont do a line space. Just keep typing mate, it'll automatically go down to the next line when there's enough text Doesnt really matter though, it was just amusing that it happened where it did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 It really wont I am going get match ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 9 hours ago, bcnram said: Even though he is a competent defender, Shackell makes me nervous every time he has the ball at his feet; he seems so unsure and vulnerable. I think he would be more comfortable operating as a Nigel Clough 'head it and kick it' defender. I think that Jake Buxton is a better all round defender who makes the right decisions more often than not when he has the ball. He may not be as tall as some would like but the guy has a tremendous leap. He may not be as quick as some would like but he reads the game really well. I also think it is a big mistake to make Keogh captain again. He doesn't manage the responsibility well, better to just let him concentrate on his defending, which this year for the most part he has done very well. I do understand why people like Shackell, and to me he is ok, but Buxton has the edge. Buxton much better on the ball but I really don't think there is any comparison when it comes to defending. Wasn't Shackell rated as one of the best defenders in the Premier League last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 3 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Buxton much better on the ball but I really don't think there is any comparison when it comes to defending. Wasn't Shackell rated as one of the best defenders in the Premier League last season? no, but I think he had a high percentage of blocks. There is more to defending than blocking shots, and the 'more' is what Shackell is distinctly average at . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 56 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: no, but I think he had a high percentage of blocks. There is more to defending than blocking shots, and the 'more' is what Shackell is distinctly average at . Absolute rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Just now, curtains said: Absolute rubbish Oh look, Curtains is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 4 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Wasn't Shackell rated as one of the best defenders in the Premier League last season? For Burnley. A very different team to us. Every team has its style, and it's not just the front 6 that play that style. It's everyone, including your defenders and keeper. Bradley Johnson was one of the best midfielders in the league last season. For Norwich. We didn't pay £6million because we were getting £6million worth of player for us, but because that was what he was worth to Norwich in their promotion last season. BJ would look good for Burnley, and put him on the left of the 4-4-2 under Billy in the 06/07 season and we might have gone up as Champions. The problem is, we've stopped building a team and started playing Football League Sticker Book. Only a complete fool wouldn't recognise that Shackell is one of the best defenders in the league, but that doesn't necessarily make him the right option for us. The aspect of the club that really worries me at the moment is the club saying they want a very specific style of football on the one hand, and then on the other hand assuming promotion is inevitable if you just keep signing the most prestigious players at this level regardless of what position they play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, Duracell said: For Burnley. A very different team to us. Every team has its style, and it's not just the front 6 that play that style. It's everyone, including your defenders and keeper. Bradley Johnson was one of the best midfielders in the league last season. For Norwich. We didn't pay £6million because we were getting £6million worth of player for us, but because that was what he was worth to Norwich in their promotion last season. BJ would look good for Burnley, and put him on the left of the 4-4-2 under Billy in the 06/07 season and we might have gone up as Champions. The problem is, we've stopped building a team and started playing Football League Sticker Book. Only a complete fool wouldn't recognise that Shackell is one of the best defenders in the league, but that doesn't necessarily make him the right option for us. The aspect of the club that really worries me at the moment is the club saying they want a very specific style of football on the one hand, and then on the other hand assuming promotion is inevitable if you just keep signing the most prestigious players at this level regardless of what position they play. Our defence has been great most of the season. Keogh needs to pass out of defence as much as Shackell instead of keep giving it back to him. We were all over the place at the back when Bucko came on but he did the job. He is a fan cult figure and is good to have around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBG83 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I like Buxton but I was convinced he was going to give a penalty away or get sent off after watching him for two minutes on Saturday. I think the fans hype him up so much that he neglects the actual game he should be playing and resorts to taunting and pulling shirts. Great player to have in your squad but I'm afraid he's not good enough to replace Shackell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: no, but I think he had a high percentage of blocks. There is more to defending than blocking shots, and the 'more' is what Shackell is distinctly average at . Blocking, heading and tackling are the most important attributes when looking at defending in isolation surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 5 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Buxton much better on the ball but I really don't think there is any comparison when it comes to defending. Wasn't Shackell rated as one of the best defenders in the Premier League last season? By the way you've worded this, it sounds like you're making your judgement purely on reputation. You don't think there is any comparison because Shackell was rated as one of the best defenders in the Premier League last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Carson Keogh Shackell Buxton Thorne Christie Olsson Bryson Butterfield(Hughes when fit) Ince Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 8 minutes ago, McLovin said: Carson Keogh Shackell Buxton Thorne Christie Olsson Bryson Butterfield(Hughes when fit) Ince Martin And that won't happen at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 18 minutes ago, Tombo said: By the way you've worded this, it sounds like you're making your judgement purely on reputation. You don't think there is any comparison because Shackell was rated as one of the best defenders in the Premier League last season? Just trying to highlight that defending is his strength and that has been proved at a level higher than the one he currently plays at. Making my judgement on what I have seen and I believe this would be backed up by stats. FWIW, and I did start a thread on this a couple of months ago, I would probably rather have Bucko in the team. Reason being if we get out attacking play right I really don't think we would need to worry about the defending side so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Hey buxton stands his ground and does not back down and fact something we have been missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 2 hours ago, curtains said: Absolute rubbish and to think.... I was worried about you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: and to think.... I was worried about you Thanks for the concern lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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