Bob Loblaw Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: as i asked, would he have been sacked if we finished top?....answer NO 100% definitely he wouldn't....he was sacked because we finished 8th. There's plenty of scenarios where we finished 8th and McClaren could keep his job, so no, he wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Bob Loblaw said: There's plenty of scenarios where we finished 8th and McClaren could keep his job, so no, he wasn't. nope there isn't....just like there wouldn't be if we finished 8th this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 29 minutes ago, eddie said: We tried the gung-ho approach under McClaren after Martin, Eustace and Bucko were injured in the last third of last season. Just how many 3-3 and 4-4 draws do you want? We don't have to go gun ho, we just need to move the ball quicker, press the opposition, create chances and goals will follow. Alternatively we could continue what we have been doing since Boxing day and let our season collapse, it wouldn't be so bad if our performances were good and it was just bad luck in some games recently, but our performances have been awful. Make no mistake he is under pressure. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 Ram Raider Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 23 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: as i asked, would he have been sacked if we finished top?....answer NO 100% definitely he wouldn't....he was sacked because we finished 8th. And the Newcastle interest had nothing to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 On 29 January 2016 at 21:54, leemark said: Is his position now under serious threat? Yes. Or it should be. 3 games. We've been increasingly ***** for 6 weeks. This is a very good Champ squad with £25m re-inforcement and it looks to me like the wheels have fallen off. I like Clement and he speaks well, but I'm not convinced he knows how to turn us around. This isn't my usual form. I'm generally what we used to call blind-faither. Hopefully we win tonight and you can all tell me "told you so". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, 1977 Ram Raider said: And the Newcastle interest had nothing to do with it? Nope. The reason he got sacked was because we didn't get promoted with a massively expensive squad that should have walked the league....a bit like this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAT Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 5 hours ago, eddie said: All I know is this.. A couple wins and half the posters would disappear. I think most on here would like to see both a great performance and result go hand-in-hand. If in the next two games we get 6 points but the performances aren't great I doubt it'll satisfy what's becoming the majority. Looking at the way some top 7 teams have acquired their points I don't give cr4p how they come. Let's just start racking them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm actually amazed that people think that there is a simple switch that can be thrown. Equally, if people perceive that to be the case, then that same simple switch must have been pressed, turned or flicked in the opposite direction, either deliberately or accidentally. You've (collectively) even decided when it happened - but you don't quite know what or why - however, you've each got a solution. The problem is, there's very little common ground, as is evident by the tripe that was uttered on Radio Derby after the Man United game, and which has been repeated in one form or another many times since. Everyone's solution is different - and not subtly either. I suppose, with the benefit of hindsight, we should have saved the game more often, then restored to just before it went wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 Ram Raider Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: Nope. The reason he got sacked was because we didn't get promoted with a massively expensive squad that should have walked the league....a bit like this season Is that fact or just a wild guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 59 minutes ago, 1977 Ram Raider said: Is that fact or just a wild guess? is is a fact. If we had gone up he would have still been here. One of the main reasons we didnt get promoted isn't in the squad again tonight so hopefully PC has seen that and is doing something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 15 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: is is a fact. If we had gone up he would have still been here. That's actually an opinion but carry on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAT Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 FFS I hope we put in a performance tonight, we get a win and Chris Martin gets a couple because I'm fed up of discussing Chris Martin's form, our best midfield, the best formation and whether Clement is in possession of a clue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 3 hours ago, Rampage said: Mel distinctly said that he expected an improvement this season!!!!!! Finishing 7th is an improvement, still won't get us promoted. PC will still be here next season unless we have a spectacular collapse and finish, what, lower than 10th as a guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 45 minutes ago, ColonelBlimp said: Finishing 7th is an improvement, still won't get us promoted. PC will still be here next season unless we have a spectacular collapse and finish, what, lower than 10th as a guess? you might be getting just what you asked for... Rubbish. not being able to beat a team as bad as that.. pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 1 minute ago, MuespachRam said: Rubbish. not being able to beat a team as bad as that.. pathetic. Grayson's post-match comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 A shame that after six years of working with Ancelotti, Clement hasn't learned a thing about attacking football. I can understand trying to find the right balance. But having three players playing the holding midfield role, passing at snails pace and having no pace up top or no runners beyond the CF is illogical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixman1884 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Firmly in the Clement Out camp now. It would take a miracle to convince me otherwise. We've lost everything I loved about this squad. At least last season's collapse we had a few legitimate excuses (Martin injured, Thorne injured, Eustace injured, hadn't spent 25 million). We were still scoring goals for fun and didn't slip out of the top 6 until the last day. We could potentially slip out this weekend. Morale seems through the floor, and clearly the instructions they're getting isn't working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I think he's got the potential to be the next LVG. No goals, no shots on target, slow tempo & plenty of sideways passing and possession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 Ram Raider Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 A penny for Mels thoughts right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Tonight has put me in the 'he's got to go' camp. Clueless now for 3 home games that we should have won. He can't change things. Walking forward with the ball. Passing backwards all the time. No pace in attack. No shots no excitement no entertainment. I always think it's not the result but how you play. Tonight was pathetic. If I was MM i'd change things now before it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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