Wolfie20 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 If Clements won't make changes or isn't capable of doing what's necessary to turn things around then I'm seriously concerned. He seems determined to continue to select players who were brought in on, for us, huge transfer fees but who are seriously out of form. Tuesday is the biggest game of the season so far for us, not just for the 3 points at stake but as a pointer to whether this manager can get this train back on the rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Just now, AndyinLiverpool said: the tactic worked fine, genius. Because we weren't 3 or 4-1 up against the team 5th in the league higher than us, it didn't work? You're not making sense. I don't understand your counter argument which is quite worrying given my conferred status as a genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 What a boring, lifeless performance. I appreciate, of course, the quality of the opposition but we really let them get their confidence back with our deferential approach. I would have taken Martin off and put Blackman in the middle and Hendrick should have started. I know I keep on about it but the two winger approach just isn't working. It means Butterfield and Thorne have to play too deep and that for long periods, we are playing with 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Inglorius said: I don't understand your counter argument which is quite worrying given my conferred status as a genius In what way didn't the tactic work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Thorne (until his legs went as usual) was very good. As was Warnock as usual. And Butterfield was decent, even if for some reason he was yet again deep with Thorne. Whereas we had Johnson as the roaming midfielder. Who again was absolutely useless. He looks like a pub team player, seriously. Christie's form has really dropped off, and Martin was awful again. I know, I know, he set the goal up again, and I value that contribution. But in terms of anything else? He just mooches around and occasionally tries to get the ball. Never known a striker second to so many crosses in the last two games. Made Smalling look like Beckenbauer tonight. And Blackman looks like a striker out wide to me. Which is how I described Weimann earlier this season. Why are we signing strikers to play left wing? I'm confused by this scattergun approach to signings. Carson, Shackell and Butterfield have been superb acquisitions. Ince I'd add to them, if we'd paid a million or two. Not sure he represents for value for £5m. The rest have been poor recruits so far. It's Man Utd though. It's the cup. But I'm starting to think like the bed wetters. I fear for us. Looks like a battle to get into the top six. And, we need results quickly otherwise Clement is a gonner. Not that I'm arsed. Far too negative and cautious in his approach in my opinion. Butterfield holding midfield? Blackman a winger? No strikers on the bench? BRADLEY FECKN JOHNSON starts regardless? I'm a bit angry. LOL. I'll return when more relaxed. UP THE RAMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I thought you could see we weren't use to playing a game at the pace manure were playing at. I thought we did ok. The team we just played had some quality players and I think manure knew they were in a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Not pressing them enough giving them time to pick their passes and also giving them confidence right from the start of the game when their confidence was probably as low as ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymru Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I thought we had the wrong manager in 4weeks ago but now I know now we have 25 mil what a waist of money i wish we would have gone for a proven manager in this league MEL sorry I like you but this is the biggest mistake that you have done get rid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Butterfield was simply outstanding today. He wouldn't have looked out of place in a red shirt at all. Felt sorry for Cyrus. Through no fault of his own... He was simply out matched by Martial who killed him. Johnson though... Absolutely lost. Didn't know whether to press or sit in. Not a clue where Mata was half the game. Really really poor. He has to be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Too many players not playing to their potential to perhaps even make the Play Offs at this rate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satty atwal Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Well circus is over. Think bent and sadly weimanns derby careers are over judging by wat i heard on radio on way back from clement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 We were very fortunate go in at 1-1 at HT. Martial squandered some great openings. I don't care that we lost 3-1. I wasn't expecting us to win. But for a team which cost £25m on top of a decent Championship squad anyway, I was expecting much more. We played with zero intensity, made no effort to close down or even push up. Andwhen we got the ball, we were largely dreadful. Martin, Ince, Thorne and at a push Christie were the only players who looked like they were able players on the ball. The rest... Johnson, Blackman and Camara were a combined £10m. I'm sorry, but for that amount I'd expect a little bit of ball ability, and if not that plenty of effort. They failed on both accounts. And Clement's tactics were poor too. Made no sense, and it hindered us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, satty atwal said: Well circus is over. Think bent and sadly weimanns derby careers are over judging by wat i heard on radio on way back from clement Neither will be a great loss to be frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 It might be time to give up on this forum. The connection with reality has completely gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 We lacked quality tonight, we sat too deep and the substitutions by Paul made matters worse. I do have concerns that we are leaking goals like a sieve and have become a spent force up front, but my real concern is Paul Clement he looks lost on the touch line when things are not right. Tactically we have gone back a step, I do now think he is under pressure, the Preston is a must win game and a good team performance is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Canitbé Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, 1977 Ram Raider said: Am I right in thinking the last 6 games in all competitions we've drawn 2, lost 4, won 0. What a shambles. Have a day off, we were playing Manchester United today. Saw enough tonight to feel encouraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, satty atwal said: Well circus is over. Think bent and sadly weimanns derby careers are over judging by wat i heard on radio on way back from clement What was said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 6 minutes ago, Inglorius said: I don't understand your counter argument which is quite worrying given my conferred status as a genius Who conferred it, Inglorious? Was it confirmed? We agree about your status but we prefer Status Quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernRam Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Peter Schemichel made a very good point in the post match analysis that if we do want to get out the division, we have to be prepared to play some less attractive football. It is sometimes about lumping it over and running onto it. Also, the real difference we're seeing now is between poor form and poor attitude. Chris Martin is doing absolutely **** all. Bradley Johnson looks very average, and if he were to leave, I wouldn't be disappointed. I'm effectively just echoing Warren (above) but things need changing. I personally think selling Martin, and spending the funds on Rhodes or McCormack is what we need to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satty atwal Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Off topic but jordan rhodes gone boro.... 9m rising to 13m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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