eddie Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 8 minutes ago, nottingram said: Started uni at Trent in the summer so near enough right in the city centre! Don't tell anyone but I quite like it here really The Canal House makes it bearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezza Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Two goals tonight for Martin and he's third top scorer in the championship, above Austin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 If he comes off the bench... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezza Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Yes that would help! Hope we smash them though, we owe them one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Bent has shown me in that first half just why people have been shouting out for him to start over Martin, because they are blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 1 minute ago, ossieram said: Bent has shown me in that first half just why people have been shouting out for him to start over Martin, because they are blind. Sorry I can only give one like for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I haven't looked at his stats but he was very good up until 6 games ago. Those 6 games since Martin has been poor he can't hide from that. Obviously he is the messiah to all derby fans so he can't do a lot wrong even when he is poor but if bent has 3 bad games thats it isn't it he is getting slated. Bring back the Martin from start of the season please not the one with that touch last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 48 minutes ago, Simsy said: I haven't looked at his stats but he was very good up until 6 games ago. Those 6 games since Martin has been poor he can't hide from that. Obviously he is the messiah to all derby fans so he can't do a lot wrong even when he is poor but if bent has 3 bad games thats it isn't it he is getting slated. Bring back the Martin from start of the season please not the one with that touch last night Felt last night he saved us. We looked much more of an attacking threat with him on than Bent. When Bent was on many of our attacks just hit dead ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 1 hour ago, Simsy said: I haven't looked at his stats but he was very good up until 6 games ago. Those 6 games since Martin has been poor he can't hide from that. Obviously he is the messiah to all derby fans so he can't do a lot wrong even when he is poor but if bent has 3 bad games thats it isn't it he is getting slated. Bring back the Martin from start of the season please not the one with that touch last night Bore off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Bent-v-Martin Derby before the 62 minute last night -V- Derby after the 62 minute last night. Argument over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor1946 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Bent as been on the bench most of the season,and to think that he is to move mountains in a high tempo game away at Leeds Utd ,strikers get confidence with game time,,He ran the channels and chased a lot of hopeful balls, and made a contribution to a well earned point,As a team it was a good result,And he is a part of a quality squad. Why do people have to enjoy criticizing our players,Keogh--Ince--Martin--Shotton--Bent--Weimann--Warnock== Must i go on .How did we get to the top two in a very competitive championship . Easy they are a team ,and we hope they get us into the premiership. If he is in a Derby shirt and gives ioo per-cent,he will do for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 End this nonesense thread.........Martin = main man. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Martin for me in CF position, but it was unfortunate for Bent last night, as he was too isolated with Weiman and Russell going too deep. Bent for me is a sub player, bring him on for the last 15 mins when things are not going well [if that ever happens this season] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 For us so far 102 games, 47 goals. And goalscoring is not even his biggest strength tells it all about his ability. Badly out of form at the though so this season his displays can be argued. This season 1986 minutes with 9 goals and 4 assists. 153 min/point Last season 3232 minutes with 21 + 7. 115 min/point 13/14 4316 minutes with 25 + 9. 126 min/point IMO he hasn't been poor but at same time, he has been as excellent as usual. And stats show clearly that he hasn't been as effective as earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 3 hours ago, Dimmu said: For us so far 102 games, 47 goals. And goalscoring is not even his biggest strength tells it all about his ability. Badly out of form at the though so this season his displays can be argued. This season 1986 minutes with 9 goals and 4 assists. 153 min/point Last season 3232 minutes with 21 + 7. 115 min/point 13/14 4316 minutes with 25 + 9. 126 min/point IMO he hasn't been poor but at same time, he has been as excellent as usual. And stats show clearly that he hasn't been as effective as earlier. We are no longer a one-dimensional team - there are alternatives to the 'get the ball to Martin as quickly as possible' approach this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I see Martin has gone yet another game without scoring. When was the last time he scored from open play? No one is too good to be dropped. Great player but seriously off form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Grooves Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Hes not a seriously great player though. i can think of more negatives about him than i can positives. He'd get eaten alive in the premiership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 He's a player who has had an enormous positive impact on our team in recent seasons. Now we say we are diversifying our attacking so not everything goes through chris. Fair enough. Except that the alternative approaches do not seem either as effective or attractive. And the collateral disadvantage is that our play no longer seems as able to work off chris's movement and layoffs. Thus at present we appear to have diminished our main attacking threat without introduction of effective alternatives. I blame the coaching for this. That's it's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Right now in some games I would drop Johnson probably, bring in a new winger so we have more options and play Ince behind Martin. I think we need to help Martin out a bit more. If come the end of Jan that has had no or little impact we would have to get someone in for the rest of the season. We are too close to throw this away because some people don't want to admit Martin is out of form. As a team we still score plenty of goals and don't concede many. So there isn't too much of a need to change things. I just think that Clement needs to be identify games in which we would be better suited to Ince playing behind Martin. We shouldn't wait for a problem to arise. We should plan for it. By the end of Jan if Martin is playing as he has done the last 13 games or so now, that will be 17 games or so. That is more than enough time to give someone an opportunity. How many teams have the luxury to do as we have, one of their best players going off form for that long and it having little to no impact. We can take a look back at the table 5,10 and 15 games ago if people want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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