Thierry Ennui Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Thought these were interesting, as I tend to agree with most of them. I've finished with the ones for Butterfield and Johnson. Butterfield's is quite exciting, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 When you look at Butterfields pass completion rate though compared to Hughesey's, it's considerably lower. Johnson's is lower still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 How do they rate concentration?Couple of dodgy bits but pretty good. Sage will love the Bent one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 When you look at Butterfields pass completion rate though compared to Hughesey's, it's considerably lower. Johnson's is lower still.That might change in our team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 FFS it's not a video game. What data source, criteria and modelling are these based on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilks Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Why did we sign Weimann if he has many weaknesses but no apparent strengths? No wonder Clement isn't giving him a starting berth.Why isn't Christie starting every game as he has no weaknesses?Why is Russell a striker if his weakness is finishing?God help us if our keeper has a weakness in catching crosses. English football is based largely on lumping high balls into the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 FFS it's not a video game. What data source, criteria and modelling are these based on?Whoscored track every pass, shot, run etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Interesting.The data backs up what I've seen of Weimann so far. He's not really impressed me yet.Not sure how Darren Bent can NOT have a strength of "finishing". Surely that's what he's best at?Also enjoyed the fact that Keogh has a weakness of "crossing". How stupid. If your Centre Back is putting in crosses, you've got more to worry about than whether he's good at it or not. You need to be re-thinking your tactics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Also enjoyed the fact that Keogh has a weakness of "crossing". How stupid. If your Centre Back is putting in crosses, you've got more to worry about than whether he's good at it or not. You need to be re-thinking your tactics!He has played right back in his career before, and clearly he didn't impress anyone with his crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Interesting.The data backs up what I've seen of Weimann so far. He's not really impressed me yet.Not sure how Darren Bent can NOT have a strength of "finishing". Surely that's what he's best at?Also enjoyed the fact that Keogh has a weakness of "crossing". How stupid. If your Centre Back is putting in crosses, you've got more to worry about than whether he's good at it or not. You need to be re-thinking your tactics!He has played right back in his career before, and clearly he didn't impress anyone with his crosses.I think it has more to do with Keogh getting the ball after a corner, he probably gets it more than most down the other side of the box, and when he crosses the defender wins more often than not.On Darren Bent, at times he is actually quite wasteful, and takes shots on when he should probably pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 So we also have a goalkeeper who is weak on crosses and not strong on anything at all?I call shenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Sounds about right. Half our team can't tackle, and that makes sense given how we never bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 If anything Carson has nothing but impressed me from crosses so far. They clearly watch selective games, and none in the second half of last season if Forsyth's strength is passing.Our CB pairing both also can't tackle, which is promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Isn't this how Brentford are picking their team now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 If anything Carson has nothing but impressed me from crosses so far. They clearly watch selective games, and none in the second half of last season if Forsyth's strength is passing.Our CB pairing both also can't tackle, which is promising.The best centre backs don't tackle. They either read the game and intercept, or shepherd the attacker away. As a pro defender you only tackle when the attacker has got away from you and is clean through on goal (ie. you have no other choice). Reason: tackles are risky and there is a relatively high chance of free kick / booking / penalty. Don't read too much into the tackles statistic. It's one of the least important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 Thought this was interesting too, from Derby's main page.http://www.whoscored.com/Teams/20 Derby Characteristics + StrengthsComing back from losing positionsStrong Protecting the leadStrong - WeaknessesFinishing scoring chancesWeak Aerial duelsWeak Defending against long shotsVery Weak Derby StylePossession footballControl the game in the opposition's halfShort passesAttack through the middleRotate their first elevenNon-aggressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Keogh 'does not dive into tackles'...Beg to differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 He doesn't though, does he? He tends to intercept the ball with his pace.He dives into (attempted) blocks, though. Shackell is much better at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Thought this was interesting too, from Derby's main page.http://www.whoscored.com/Teams/20 Derby Characteristics + StrengthsComing back from losing positionsStrong Protecting the leadStrong - WeaknessesFinishing scoring chancesWeak Aerial duelsWeak Defending against long shotsVery Weak Derby StylePossession footballControl the game in the opposition's halfShort passesAttack through the middleRotate their first elevenNon-aggressiveTaking the leadVery weak (at present) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Are we really going to judge our team and our players on cobblers like this? just go to the games and watch - you'll get a far better view of the players than this sort of rubbish can provide.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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