Jayweb95 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 One thing about this whole deal that keeps catching my eye is the whole "20 teams are after him" to me that's a win win for us. If/When he joins us and he lives up to the hype united fans have made about him then we've got ourselves a gem, but on the other hand if he turns out to be average he can simple be recalled or dropped. Also by loaning him we're causing promotion rivals to miss out on a player with bags of potential and a player that can score against us..... I'm sure we're all familiar with Patrick Bamford So can we all stop the moaning because if this falls through and Martin gets injured you'll all be begging PC to sign the "average" James Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 One liner in the middle of a write up on United in today's Sun states he is on his way to Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 ridiculous http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Derby-County-Bolton-Wanderers-hoping-beat-Rams/story-27778961-detail/story.html? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 ridiculous http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Derby-County-Bolton-Wanderers-hoping-beat-Rams/story-27778961-detail/story.html?I would still rather have him coming off the bench ahead of Wieman and Bent in the current way we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Hope Bent does it for you all .I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 ridiculous http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Derby-County-Bolton-Wanderers-hoping-beat-Rams/story-27778961-detail/story.html?Dead right. It says 'half a dozen clubs after him' - surely that means that he's only half as good as Albentosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I would still rather have him coming off the bench ahead of Wieman and Bent in the current way we play. Some Derby fans think Wiemann and Bent will score enough goals but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesses Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Dead right. It says 'half a dozen clubs after him' - surely that means that he's only half as good as Albentosa. The standard for being 'half as good as Albentosa' has improved recently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The standard for being 'half as good as Albentosa' has improved recently... Where did you find that picture of @froggg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The standard for being 'half as good as Albentosa' has improved recently... Is that Wiemann or Bent running blinkered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The standard for being 'half as good as Albentosa' has improved recently... If I could have given you ten likes I would have!!! Very funny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 14 championship clubs after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 From the little I've seen and heard, he seems a good prospect and I can understand why we'd take him on loan. What I don't really understand is why we'd do it on the back of recruiting two 'proven' Premier League strikers in the summer, having already got our first definite 20-goal a season striker in ages in Martin, whilst regularly playing 1 man up front. Don't think Bent or Weimann came to just sit on the bench, so surely the situation isn't tenable to have all 4 vying for one spot, two at most. The current poor start isn't helping either, if we were flying then it's easier to justify them not getting a game, the prospect of being part of a promotion to the Premier League wouldn't harm either. If PC gets us winning games then those 4 look great on paper....not sure in reality we can keep all happy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 From the little I've seen and heard, he seems a good prospect and I can understand why we'd take him on loan. What I don't really understand is why we'd do it on the back of recruiting two 'proven' Premier League strikers in the summer, having already got our first definite 20-goal a season striker in ages in Martin, whilst regularly playing 1 man up front. Don't think Bent or Weimann came to just sit on the bench, so surely the situation isn't tenable to have all 4 vying for one spot, two at most. The current poor start isn't helping either, if we were flying then it's easier to justify them not getting a game, the prospect of being part of a promotion to the Premier League wouldn't harm either. If PC gets us winning games then those 4 look great on paper....not sure in reality we can keep all happy..I'm wondering if Bent or Weimann have asked to go out on loan and we have agreed to it with the caveat that we bring someone else in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'm wondering if Bent or Weimann have asked to go out on loan and we have agreed to it with the caveat that we bring someone else in. We're getting onto conspiracy theories now....the most likely explanation is that a) weimann is seen as competition to russell so far this season (as a winger) and b) PC has made it clear he wants to be able to try new formations, if he opts (and sticks to) 2 up front then 4 strikers on rotation seems the smart idea. plus if **** hits the fan with another injury to martin then it's obvious Bent can't perform that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 We're getting onto conspiracy theories now....the most likely explanation is that a) weimann is seen as competition to russell so far this season (as a winger) and b) PC has made it clear he wants to be able to try new formations, if he opts (and sticks to) 2 up front then 4 strikers on rotation seems the smart idea. plus if **** hits the fan with another injury to martin then it's obvious Bent can't perform that role.But can Wilson? He is more of a footballer than Bent but a strong wind could blow him over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 So cute to see Sage desperate to see Bent and Weimann to leave so quickly. Sorry not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 There appears to be a lot of criticism of our strikers, based on a few games this year in which the team as a whole hasn't hit its straps.Martin needs more support from midfield runners than he has had so far.Weimann needs to play through the middle, perhaps partnered by a foil like Martin or Bent Bent is a finisher and proved as much last season. If we keep giving him the service he will score.Ince likewise.Just because we haven't scored a hat full doesn't make them bad players.They, like the rest of the team, need a confidence boosting victory and all will be well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppo93 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 There appears to be a lot of criticism of our strikers, based on a few games this year in which the team as a whole hasn't hit its straps.Martin needs more support from midfield runners than he has had so far.Weimann needs to play through the middle, perhaps partnered by a foil like Martin or Bent Bent is a finisher and proved as much last season. If we keep giving him the service he will score.Ince likewise.Just because we haven't scored a hat full doesn't make them bad players.They, like the rest of the team, need a confidence boosting victory and all will be well. Exactly! people need to calm down. We have only played 5 games in the league - the team hasn't had chance to get going yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 There appears to be a lot of criticism of our strikers, based on a few games this year in which the team as a whole hasn't hit its straps.Martin needs more support from midfield runners than he has had so far.Weimann needs to play through the middle, perhaps partnered by a foil like Martin or Bent Bent is a finisher and proved as much last season. If we keep giving him the service he will score.Ince likewise.Just because we haven't scored a hat full doesn't make them bad players.They, like the rest of the team, need a confidence boosting victory and all will be well. It's not always a criticism of the forwards, it the selection process behind the type of forwards we have bought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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