TheDeadlySaul Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I don't think he had a bad game at all. Yes he was poor going forward, but so was Wisdom and everyone seems to want him back. Baird looks fine defensively and it is that captains armband that will turn him into a scapegoat like Keogh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subman Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Right, perhaps he should not have reacted to the fans but then we as a bunch of fans are shocking.If the ball isn't played forward every time we moan, who did Baird have in front of him? Hanson and Ince.1) Hanson is still learning and had a decent game I thought, he is trying to do the basics and not mess up.2) Ince, sorry a waste of space for me, and a load of money. Ince is so poor defensively and 70% of the time doesn't even try, if you get a chance to watch the game again keep your eye on his work rate without the ball, Fishcakes! Drop him! Would be very interested to see the win/lose/draw stats with Ince playing.Regarding us having a go at Baird before half time and him kicking off at us, he had no other option but to pass the ball backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Scapegoat for this week folks ....... Yes, I'm sorry Chris, but it's your turn. (Chris bows politely to the baying crowd and carries out his duties). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Fans pay there money and have every right to groan at boring Baird playing backward passes EVERY time he gets the ball. For him to turn round and have a go is out of order we pay his wages, if he could get his players up they wouldn't play Clough like football and nobody would groan. He owes an apology in my opinion and doesn't deserve the armband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Should be having a go at Ince if any player. 4.75m worth of nothing. He is offering nothing to the team, can't beat his man, can't find a pass and his defending is woeful. Hull knew exactly what they was doing and knew him better than what we did.Seem to remember Ince banging goals in for fun at the end of last season, what's changed since then apart from the coach maybe that's where you should be directing your angst towards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subman Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Fans pay there money and have every right to groan at boring Baird playing backward passes EVERY time he gets the ball. For him to turn round and have a go is out of order we pay his wages, if he could get his players up they wouldn't play Clough like football and nobody would groan. He owes an apology in my opinion and doesn't deserve the armband.yes he should apologise, I agree. Tell me, since when has the right back position become an issue for us? Cyrus Christie was one of our best players till January last year. Ask yourselves what has changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 The very fact we have played three players at RB this season shows the issue isn't addressed. Getting a guaranteed starting RB to me is as important as a midfielder.Saying Baird and players like Hanson have been good - good hasn't won us a game in six.... Isn't the only reason we have played 3 at right back because of injuries to midfield meaning baird had to move into midfield so christie came in and when christie has not been on the bench shotton has had to come in.For me baird was no worse or better than any other derby player in the first half. Some fans seem to be on his back for no reason than the fact that they don't like him. Fans are far too precious, yeah its a little unprofessional to get involved with the fans, but fans love to dish out every insult under the sun soon as they get some back they start crying, get a grip. Some Derby fans need a wake up call to their expectations, its gone to some fans heads and the moaning over every little mis control or mis placed pass is ridiculous, they are championship players not champions league players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Seem to remember Ince banging goals in for fun at the end of last season, what's changed since then apart from the coach maybe that's where you should be directing your angst towards The fact that Ince has just got a great big contract with a nice wage might just do it.He shows no fight whatsoever, and like another poster says, it would be great to see his win ratio whilst in the team. He isn't a team player, he's like his dad, me me me. Very selfish player who plays for himself and not the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I think Baird needed to use some of the experience that he's evidently got - responding to moaning fans is never going to make things better so it was a daft thing to do...My bigger issue was his complete lack of leadership - when they scored, the players all trudged back to their 'kick off' positions, but there was no encouragement, no rollicking or indeed anything else from our captain - he just seemed to accept it. Could you imagine Igor, Wrighty, Van Der Laan, Mackay simply accepting the goal without trying to get some sort of reaction from the players - even Keogh would have been showing some sort of reaction (for all his faults as a captain - and I'm pleased he isn't anymore as he's looked a better player without the added pressure). A captian needs to lead - Baird didn't show any leadership today and that's unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 What did he say anyway?http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0312m05That is the interview with him. Whilst I think he is abysmal in midfield he is solid enough at RB and I think he does make a fair point that we are only 5 games in at the moment and the fans are already acting like it is the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Fans pay there money and have every right to groan at boring Baird playing backward passes EVERY time he gets the ball. For him to turn round and have a go is out of order we pay his wages, if he could get his players up they wouldn't play Clough like football and nobody would groan. He owes an apology in my opinion and doesn't deserve the armband.clough like football, you must be joking? we couldn't put more than about 2 passes together under clough, I think some people forget how bad we really have been under some previous managers. Second half was more like how we need to play over 90 minutes, passing and moving and energy. First half too static without the ball but with the ball we are still no where near as bad as some people are making out.And unfortunatley for baird he is in his 30s, if someone doesn't give him an option going forwards he has to go backwards. He's too slow to beat his man and work a gap to find a man. Second half like i said though more energy and movement, there were more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 yes he should apologise, I agree. Tell me, since when has the right back position become an issue for us? Cyrus Christie was one of our best players till January last year. Ask yourselves what has changed?If Christie hadn't lost his confidence and played a full season how he did at the start Baird wouldn't be anywhere near the team. Fozzy has improved but we're still lacking a full back with a bit of flare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcsmith Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I like the fact that he can play the ball backwards as well as sideways. Must read the game well cause he has no pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Well done Baird for telling our idiot fans where to get off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subman Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Ince scored 4 goals in the last 17 games. We won 1 game of the 4 Ince scored in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Ince scored 4 goals in the last 17 games. We won 1 game of the 4 Ince scored in.Isn't this this thread entitled Chris Baird......random comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Isn't this this thread entitled Chris Baird......random commentRead back and you will see why! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Well done Baird for telling our idiot fans where to get off. Good job it wasn't Keogh then . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Good job it wasn't Keogh then .Keogh did the same last season and I applauded him then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Keogh did the same last season and I applauded him then too.Why's it happening is the product inferior then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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