DesertRam Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 The only way I'd part with Russell is if Ince was arriving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 1 yr left on contract. Agent throwing balls in the airhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22847367 I think you'll find its 2 years left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashz09 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I don't think he was the same after his injury. His performances matched the teams IMO basically CBA. Saying that last game of the season felt bad for him when he won the penalty he was going mental in front of the south stand. Like he really wanted the play offs which was a shame always got on with the fans. Saying that wouldn't mind funding torwards Ince like many others have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Derby-County-Cardiff-City-want-Rams-forward/story-26655743-detail/story.htmlCARDIFF City want to sign Derby County forward Johnny Russell, according to reports.Bluebirds boss Russell Slade is targeting the Scotland international to provide competition for wide men Craig Noone and Anthony Pilkington, says Wales Online.Slade is also said to be weighing up an ambitious swoop for Ipswich Town hot-shot Daryl Murphy.Russell was previously linked with a move to Bournemouth in the January transfer window.The 25-year-old made 46 appearances, including 31 starts, in all competitions for the Rams in 2014-15, and scored eight goals.He earned his third international cap on Friday, coming on as a substitute in Scotland's 1-0 friendly win over Qatar. WTF?!?!?! Seriously Cardiff... Reality check time... 'to provide competition'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yeah, no way I'd sell personally (unless it's silly money)The squad is not far off overall, we don't need to be doing silly things like selling Russell to Cardiff and signing Giles Barnes - I'm hoping it's all just paper talk and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Russell is talented but his decision-making is generally bad. The number of passes he plays which hit the opposition is so annoying. He also suffers with lack of directness at times, running across the pitch in the gap between the midfield and defence, but lacks the vision to create a scoring opportunity at the end of that run. I think Ince is a much better player and I'd swap them in a second. If we keep Russell, though, I hope he develops an arrogance about his play. He needs to convince himself that he's better than the fullback he's facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Russell is talented but his decision-making is generally bad. The number of passes he plays which hit the opposition is so annoying. He also suffers with lack of directness at times, running across the pitch in the gap between the midfield and defence, but lacks the vision to create a scoring opportunity at the end of that run. I think Ince is a much better player and I'd swap them in a second. If we keep Russell, though, I hope he develops an arrogance about his play. He needs to convince himself that he's better than the fullback he's facing.Sometimes I wonder whether people on here watch a different team to me... We're all watching Derby County right? And this is the same Johnny Russell? Scottish? Beardy? Bit of a nutter? Breaks his cheekbone and carries on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yes all this negativity, I think the team were suffering as a collective at the end of the season, all our players early doors last season would have walked into any prem team according to people on this very forum.You cannot get rid of "Braveheart", I think he lost confidence when they moved him around, left wing, centre forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Sometimes I wonder whether people on here watch a different team to me... We're all watching Derby County right? And this is the same Johnny Russell? Scottish? Beardy? Bit of a nutter? Breaks his cheekbone and carries on?People like to be right.They are setting their stall out so that they can say "I told you so - and the reason he has gone is xyz". So many folk like to say "I would do this, that and the other - if I were manager/chairman/coach we would do it this way". Can't blame them for it - we all have a bit of the Walter Mitty gene inside us. Some more than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Sometimes I wonder whether people on here watch a different team to me... We're all watching Derby County right? And this is the same Johnny Russell? Scottish? Beardy? Bit of a nutter? Breaks his cheekbone and carries on?Nutter? Jamie Ward was a nutter. Russell strikes me as being too nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Russell is a capable championship player, but that's about it, he's middle of the road and i wouldn't class him as a "top 6 player" his work rate is fantastic, then again so is Conor Sammons. . . work rate doesn't automatically equal a good player, his finishing needs a lot of work and his decision making at times is poor. For the right price, and providing we have a replacement who is up there as a "top 6" player then i would certainly take the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Nutter? Jamie Ward was a nutter. Russell strikes me as being too nice.Anyone who plays through a broken cheekbone classifies as nutter for me... He has the same tendencies as Wardy did to just carry on running even when he knows full well a defender is gonna munch him... Most players these days tend to back out if they think they're gonna get hit... Ward and Russell don't... they take the hit and then try and walk it off... I still think it's why Ward spent so much time injured... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Russell is a capable championship player, but that's about it, he's middle of the road and i wouldn't class him as a "top 6 player" his work rate is fantastic, then again so is Conor Sammons. . . work rate doesn't automatically equal a good player, his finishing needs a lot of work and his decision making at times is poor. For the right price, and providing we have a replacement who is up there as a "top 6" player then i would certainly take the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Johnny Russell last season - 30 apps - 8 goals Tom Ince last season - 18 apps - 11 goals Ince is that "top 6 quality" we need, goals win games, "trying hard" can only get you so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statham512 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Johnny Russell last season - 30 apps - 8 goals Tom Ince last season - 18 apps - 11 goals Ince is that "top 6 quality" we need, goals win games, "trying hard" can only get you so far Ince could of bagged 20 easily if we had him all season. Can't ever see Russell doing that. Although I like him as others have pointed out his final ball decision and finishing have been questionable at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Ince could of bagged 20 easily if we had him all season. Can't ever see Russell doing that. Although I like him as others have pointed out his final ball decision and finishing have been questionable at timesexactly, don't get me wrong i like Johnny to, his passion is great and he works hard but like i said that will only get you so far when you are pushing for promotion, we need ruthless quality and Ince has that in abundance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Russell is a 7/10 Championship player; top six standard but not a key man by any means. I'd swap him for Craig Noone if that was an option. Ince is a 9/10 Championship player; match winning quality, who scares the living ***** out of defenders.Russell's a good player, we've all seen that, and at the minute our best wide man. We need at least two to cover the losses of Ward, Lingard and Ince. If Russell goes that would make it three or even four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Johnny Russell last season - 30 apps - 8 goals Tom Ince last season - 18 apps - 11 goals Ince is that "top 6 quality" we need, goals win games, "trying hard" can only get you so far You're complaining that a winger only scored 1 in 3? (ish)Ince is Premier League quality... He's a phenomenal player... Russell is definitely top 6 championship quality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Fans seem to be judging Russell on his performances since the turn of 2015 - when he was forced into trying to be Chris Martin.He is our only remaining wide man, yet people seem eager to send him down the river? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think Russell's a really handy player, clearly talented and like every other professional football he plays best when he's confident and in a position he is familiar with. Can't say he was either of those two for the majority of games since Xmas.He's never going to step up to the quality that Ince can produce etc but what I like the most is he's a player that still gives you something when he's not effecting the game with his attacking ability, an absolute pleasure of a player to play with if you're a full back! He doesn't go missing, he get's stuck in, chases lost causes and fights for every ball and that en-devour definitely makes up for him not being Cristiano Ronaldo on the ball.Good player, would be sad to lose him. I'd be more than happy if he's starting on the wing for Derby County in the Championship come August.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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