DcFc Dyycheee Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 TOM Ince can still enjoy a big future with Hull City next season, according to manager Steve Bruce. After a disappointing first six months at the KC Stadium, Ince has been a revelation out on loan with Championship leaders Derby County since joining on deadline day.Scoring five goals in his five appearances for Steve McClaren's side, the 23-year-old has rediscovered the form that once saw him tipped to become a Premier League star during his time with Blackpool.City are unable to recall Ince before the end of the season under the terms of his loan deal, but Bruce is watching the youngster's revival in the East Midlands with great interest."The big thing I promised Tom and his Dad (Bruce's former team-mate Paul Ince) was that he would play games," said the City boss. "When we went out of Europe early and went out of the League Cup early, that restricted the chance to play games."It's an important part of his development that he plays games. There's very few 21-year-olds playing regularly in the Premier League."He's set Derby alight and I'm delighted for him."There's still a bit of developing for him to do, he's still growing, but there's no doubting his ability."We've just seen in the last month or so."To be fair to him he played well at the start of the season as well and could have scored four or five times, so I'm pleased he's back playing well."City supporters have only ever seen glimpses of Ince's potential since he arrived from Blackpool last summer in a deal eventually agreed to be worth up to £2.3m.Despite starting the first three games of the Premier League season, he has since made just four substitute appearances in the top flight.A difficult loan spell at Nottingham Forest could not stop the rot before Christmas but Ince has since found a new lease of life at the Ipro Stadium.As well as chasing promotion to the Premier League with the Rams, he is also hopeful of being named in Gareth Southgate's England squad for the European Under-21s Championships in the Czech Republic this summer.Ince ducked questions over his long-term future when asked last week but Bruce has indicated that the forward will be back at the KC Stadium."Tom's the same as Harry Maguire and Andy Robertson, too," said the City boss."You've got to make sure that you nurse them along because it's very hard for players of that age to come in and play regularly in the Premier League. They're still learning."In my opinion they'll all be very, very good players for the future of this club, I'm convinced of that."But we're in a relegation fight at the minute and I'm going to err on the side of experience rather than youth."Sometimes a young lad can play with no fear but at this moment that experience means a lot when you're handling the situation we're in."http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Tom-Ince-firmly-Hull-City-plans-finding-form/story-26085152-detail/story.html Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Really hope if we go up its another case of George Thorne and Ince would rather move to us. I was hoping they would come down as I thought it might be easier for us to get him but Hull look like they will stay up. Although if we do go up and we can' get him, just being in the prem means we would have a lot more options for a replacement.Anybody think we should go for Leicester's Mahrez if we go up and they come down? Been their best player all season, he may interest a better team than us though. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Ince won't get enough game time for them. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 If he's doing so well for us and can't get in their team either that says he suits us a lot more than them, or the Championship is the peak of his ability.I think it's the former. Because he's doing well for us doesn't automatically make him the right sort of player for Hull.They're only 4 points from safety so nowhere near safe from relegation. Quite ignorant from Bruce to suggest they're doing anything other than trying to stay in the PL other than talking about which of their loaned-out players will play in the PL for them next year. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 He doesn't fit in at Hull. It's as simple as that. I think some of their fans have noticed it but Bruce, judging by the comments, is oblivious. Hull are always going to be in a relegation battle, so when is he going to trust him? Is he willing to change his tactics to incorporate him to his full potential, I doubt it, so why he would try and keep him is beyond me.Ince is a very talented player that has a certain playing style and thrives in certain conditions. It's not going to work out for him at Hull, it just wont. Even if he does go back, he will be asked to 'fill in' and play a role he doesn't feel 100% comfortable in. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 He doesn't fit in at Hull. It's as simple as that. I think some of their fans have noticed it but Bruce, judging by the comments, is oblivious. Hull are always going to be in a relegation battle, so when is he going to trust him? Is he willing to change his tactics to incorporate him to his full potential, I doubt it, so why he would try and keep him is beyond me.Ince is a very talented player that has a certain playing style and thrives in certain conditions. It's not going to work out for him at Hull, it just wont. Even if he does go back, he will be asked to 'fill in' and play a role he doesn't feel 100% comfortable in. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 He didn't get a chance this season from Bruce,so what's to say he will next season?I think Bruce is just quite pleased and perhaps just a bit surprised as well with how he is doing with Derby and thinks he can replicate it with Hull.Hull might just stay up this season but I am not convinced Bruce will keep his job.Ince fits us perfectly and I hope we can get him permanently. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I hope he is our first summer signing along with a two year contract offered to Bent. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 So Mr Potato Head promised Tom & his dad that he'd play games and then didn't pick him - that says far more about Bruce and his management skills than he probably intended.... Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloughandtaylor Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I also was hoping that Hull would come down - so much easier to sign Ince. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaftesbury Street Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 How can any player be "firmly" in someone plans when they are in a potential relegation battle? If they do get relegated, it's a no brainer for Ince to come here.If they stay up it will be another Thorne situation. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Bruce obviously thinks he's going to be able to put in in Hull's team and he will replicate his Derby form. Highly unlikely. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_D Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Making excuses for letting a player go on loan with no recall who is scoring / creating freely when played in the right position and the right formation. See Lambert trying to have a go at Bent before he got the chop for the same reasons. Damage limitation. The gulf isn't that big from us to them and free kicks like Ince's go in in any division, so it's not a championship thing. Probably also trying to bump up any price we might have to pay to get him at the end of the season - as above, it’ll be another Thorne saga. He’s talking sausage too – there are loads of 21 year olds playing regularly in the prem, it’s not uncommon, notwithstanding the fact Ince is 23! Utter nonsense. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilks Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 What's with the bad feeling towards Bruce?Steve Bruce has done Derby a favour by loaning him out to us. He is still their player.Derby are using the loan system as it should be used but I think it's wrong of us to suggest that we have some kind of 'right' to have a say in that players future.He is no more a Derby player than any other club other than his parent club.Rather than berate Bruce, I feel Derby owe him a debt of gratitude. The step up to Premiership football can be titanic for some players and who is to suggest that Ince will ever be quite good enough to play at that level. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Strikes me as a "well they would say that wouldn't they" story. Its only come up as he's playing well. Still think we'll try to sign him if we. Geget up and I think he'd want to come. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 If he isn't in Steve Bruce's plans, he's hardly going to tell the media "they can have him, he's no use to us". Not unless he wants him to go for a pittance.I don't think WBA were that fussed about keeping Thorne either. Having a "saga" suited them more than us.It's just business. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I like Steve Bruce ,but coming to Derby from teams like WBA [Thorne saga] and now Hull is bound to turn players heads.Derby is quite a nice city ,the ground is prem standard , great coach,we attract bigger gates than 30% of prem teams what's not to like. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
halifaxram Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 The cynic in me rather thinks that Bruce is probably talking up Inces value to Hull, in order to "talk up his value". Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Its a vanilla response, says very in real terms, and you can twist it as you like. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 That article is just a ploy to up his price. If he's as good as bruce says why ain't playing for them now when their in the ****e?.Even if he goes back is he going to change his style/formation to suit Ince??I doubt it. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/18058-tom-ince-firmly-in-hull-city-plans/#findComment-772953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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