sage Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 With the arrival of the 5th player (some of them fairly highly paid) since NC left, has McLaren been given a bigger budget than Clough? If NC had this much money, why didn't he use it? If he didn't have this much money, has McLaren been given more because a) they trust him with the money more b) he wouldn't have come without a bigger budget c) the gates have gone up and we've renamed the ground and we can afford it now or d) the owners realise that whoever was manager, we weren't going to challenge for the top 6 without an increased budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Firstly... it's McClaren. Secondly, we have no idea what contribution we are making to these players. Thirdly, was always maintained there was dosh for a player or two... but Clough never bothered feeling no one would improve us (laughable). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Professor Plum in the kitchen with the candlestick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 A lot of a), b) and d), and a bit of c). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 Firstly... it's McClaren. Secondly, we have no idea what contribution we are making to these players. Thirdly, was always maintained there was dosh for a player or two... but Clough never bothered feeling no one would improve us (laughable). Is that a yes or a no? :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 My feeling is that SM has more funds available. And for what it's worth, I think all of the reasons you've suggested are, in some measure, true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 I calculate our income has gone up £1m a year with the extra 1000 fans and the IPro money, so I guess this would cover 3 of the signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I think they only wanted our Nigel to bail us out and to steady the ship which he did extremely well, unfortunately for him but fortunately for The Mac, he's allowed to sail it. Used and abused and all part of the plan I reckon. McClaren makes quality additions, we go up, everyone's happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Looking at who he bought for Forest and wages given, had no concerns for the investors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfb Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 With the arrival of the 5th player (some of them fairly highly paid) since NC left, has McLaren been given a bigger budget than Clough? If NC had this much money, why didn't he use it? If he didn't have this much money, has McLaren been given more because a) they trust him with the money more b) he wouldn't have come without a bigger budget c) the gates have gone up and we've renamed the ground and we can afford it now or d) the owners realise that whoever was manager, we weren't going to challenge for the top 6 without an increased budget I think you've hit the nail on the head there, im not sure i agree with the order tho, more as Needles suggests, also i think the board with appointing Sam Rush then listening to him after he had made an assesment, then acting again, etc have at last made a move to push forward, they have angered many of us in their approach and seeming reticence to invest, but i think that they have got the club to where they wanted financially,with NC's help .. and are now speculating to accumulate.......... and the upturn in gates must make them feel as if they have taken a step in the right direction... and i agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Dunno ,but I am enjoying it more now ,and his Derby signings so far are better than the one's he did at the dogs.Well done agent Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Well Clough admitted that he was looking at one or two loans, so clearly there was enough in the budget for two coming in. That would leave three players that Clough may not have had access to. Keane is only here for just over a month so may not be a huge dent to the wage budget. Also Wisdom's wages are being heavily subsidised by Liverpool. Leaving Dawson, who knows how much he's costing I guess it's less than you think and then Cisse who I imagine will be on a pretty low wage which ends in the new year. Personally I don't think he has much more than Clough, maybe a bit, but then the revenue side of things has increased. I think Jan will be much more revealing. If we are in and around the top 6 will the board sanction a higher spend to push for promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 With the arrival of the 5th player (some of them fairly highly paid) since NC left, has McLaren been given a bigger budget than Clough? If NC had this much money, why didn't he use it? If he didn't have this much money, has McLaren been given more because a) they trust him with the money more b) he wouldn't have come without a bigger budget c) the gates have gone up and we've renamed the ground and we can afford it now or d) the owners realise that whoever was manager, we weren't going to challenge for the top 6 without an increased budget Short answer - yes. Long answer - hell yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 They've put money forward for Nigel before. I think McClaren should be given some freedom and I don't think it'd be fair if he had to work with whatever money was left for Nigel. I don't see it as Mac v Nige and who can do the best in a fair fight. Nige left us better than he found us. He left Mac some quality players to push towards the Play Offs. His story ends there for me and Mac has the task of pushing us harder and I hope he's given funds to make his influence. Maybe if Nigel had worked with a DoF like they tried to get him to the budget would have been different. We've changed. Evolved. Nigel, all the best to him, is the past. I don't compare him to Mac. I don't even check Sheff Utd scores especially. It's a new beginning imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Y'know how Tim Ward built steadily over the mid 60's without so much as a pot to piss in? Got pretty well nowhere in terms of a promotion challenge but left BC with Hector, Durban, Webster, Boulton and Peter Daniel... Bit of a flight of fancy I know, but maybe Nigel will play Tim Ward to SMc's Brian, and leave the core of a good side for his successor. Hughes, Hendrick, Bryson, who knows Russell, Bennett...erm, ... ok I'm stretching a point and these lads have a lot to prove, but there may be a dim reflection of the late 60's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsall Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Sam Rush said that Nigel had money that he didn't use. Whether it was the same amount as McClaren I don't know. All I know is that I have been watching Derby for nearly 40 years and the atmosphere around the club and City, coupled with the performances, tactics and new blood coming in have given me a sheer passion that I haven't felt for 5 plus years. So from my point of view, I don't care whether Clough was given more money or not, whatever the truth is, the decision now seems to be working. Let's not keep dragging up the past, let's enjoy what we are getting. This is what I pay my money for. This is why I am now going away to almost every game (and more and more of my friends are coming each time). Clough never gave me this away from home especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezner Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Professor Plum in the kitchen with the candlestick I always used to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Y'know how Tim Ward built steadily over the mid 60's without so much as a pot to piss in? Got pretty well nowhere in terms of a promotion challenge but left BC with Hector, Durban, Webster, Boulton and Peter Daniel... Bit of a flight of fancy I know, but maybe Nigel will play Tim Ward to SMc's Brian, and leave the core of a good side for his successor. Hughes, Hendrick, Bryson, who knows Russell, Bennett...erm, ... ok I'm stretching a point and these lads have a lot to prove, but there may be a dim reflection of the late 60's going on. Like this needles........hopefully some truth in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I think we've spent the brayford money and the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 They're only loans......all will be going back. Lets see what happens in jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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