McRamFan Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 We should have kept Dean Moxey as well, we would be in the prem by now as he took palace up last season..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcdcfc28 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 So fickle it's unreal. Some buffoon is having a mard saying he didn't score any goals over six yard; what the fook does it matter how far he scored from?! He was wrong anyway, as he scored a lob against Doncaster. But whatever, he's gone. He will score more than Martin and Sammon (in my opinion), bookmark this thread and we'lll see who's right next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Theo played as well as he could, sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't... simple as that really. Won't go into the chances he and Tyson missed because combined, it was painfully frustrating. What we have now is so much better, just gotta wait for it to click... Unfortunately, I think this season's going to be a case of - let's hope the lads upfront can score more goals than we let in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Ward, Martin, Russell, Sammon and Bennett are a class above Robinson, Bennett has age on his side. In fairness if we was talking about bringing a striker back, shouldn't it be Steve Davies? or Kris Commons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernderbyguy Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The problem with the side for me is, we have no pace what's so ever. With Theo gone and Tyson going we've only got Ward who is quickish. If Martin plays we need to have width to get cross's in then we have russell (not to impressed) to pick up the bits. I think we do play to narrow so we need to sort that out quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 So fickle it's unreal. Some buffoon is having a mard saying he didn't score any goals over six yard; what the fook does it matter how far he scored from?! He was wrong anyway, as he scored a lob against Doncaster. But whatever, he's gone. He will score more than Martin and Sammon (in my opinion), bookmark this thread and we'lll see who's right next year. People aren't arguing about his goal scoring demeanour thoughs, they're making a point about his all round ability, I think you've been missing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 We should have kept Dean Moxey as well, we would be in the prem by now as he took palace up last season..... And with Commons we would be playing Champions League. Shame we have Buxton who's not top six player in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinzy9 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Ward, Martin, Russell, Sammon and Bennett are a class above Robinson, Bennett has age on his side. In fairness if we was talking about bringing a striker back, shouldn't it be Steve Davies? or Kris Commons? You used the word 'Class' in the same sentance as Sammon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralRam Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 All this thread is missing is 'What do you guys thgink?' And a Callum Ball reference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I can remember Newcastle fans criticising Andy Cole for his chances spurned and all-round game. He then moved to Man United for a paltry £6m and Keith Gillespie (or very similar fee). Even Keegan thought he'd conned Fergie! The problem was, Fergie knew how to use Cole to his strengths. I'm not saying Theo is as good as Cole, but I am convinced his strength would be running onto a ball 12 yards out and hitting it first time, same as Cole's was. You don't really need excellent control for that, some of the best, most prolific strikers in history didn't have great all-round games, they were just in the right-place and the right-time and capitalised on their own strengths. Sadly for Theo whilst here (and Tyson, Maguire and currently Russell), we have a manager who surprisingly doesn't like the team he manages to play the way he played. All of our strikers spend the game 40+ yards from goal facing their own goal, expected to work their own opportunities. Someone mentioned playing as a team earlier in this thread, sadly Derby DO NOT work as a team, cos a team creates chances for it's strikers, whereas our strikers are expected to create their own, and get criticised for not doing so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I can remember Newcastle fans criticising Andy Cole for his chances spurned and all-round game. He then moved to Man United for a paltry £6m and Keith Gillespie (or very similar fee). Even Keegan thought he'd conned Fergie! The problem was, Fergie knew how to use Cole to his strengths. I'm not saying Theo is as good as Cole, but I am convinced his strength would be running onto a ball 12 yards out and hitting it first time, same as Cole's was. You don't really need excellent control for that, some of the best, most prolific strikers in history didn't have great all-round games, they were just in the right-place and the right-time and capitalised on their own strengths. Sadly for Theo whilst here (and Tyson, Maguire and currently Russell), we have a manager who surprisingly doesn't like the team he manages to play the way he played. All of our strikers spend the game 40+ yards from goal facing their own goal, expected to work their own opportunities. Someone mentioned playing as a team earlier in this thread, sadly Derby DO NOT work as a team, cos a team creates chances for it's strikers, whereas our strikers are expected to create their own, and get criticised for not doing so! Haven't agreed with a lot of what you've said in this thread mostyn, but I think this one hits the nail on the head. I was told Russell was going to get us lots of goals this season, wasn't I? I was therefore pretty baffled when I saw him moved out wide against Leicester. I can't believe that we've spent that money and still we don't have a fox-in-the-box type striker. I thought that was the point in buying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I can remember Newcastle fans criticising Andy Cole for his chances spurned and all-round game. He then moved to Man United for a paltry £6m and Keith Gillespie (or very similar fee). Even Keegan thought he'd conned Fergie! The problem was, Fergie knew how to use Cole to his strengths. I'm not saying Theo is as good as Cole, but I am convinced his strength would be running onto a ball 12 yards out and hitting it first time, same as Cole's was. You don't really need excellent control for that, some of the best, most prolific strikers in history didn't have great all-round games, they were just in the right-place and the right-time and capitalised on their own strengths. Sadly for Theo whilst here (and Tyson, Maguire and currently Russell), we have a manager who surprisingly doesn't like the team he manages to play the way he played. All of our strikers spend the game 40+ yards from goal facing their own goal, expected to work their own opportunities. Someone mentioned playing as a team earlier in this thread, sadly Derby DO NOT work as a team, cos a team creates chances for it's strikers, whereas our strikers are expected to create their own, and get criticised for not doing so! The percentage of play that Derby regularly have suggests that yes they do play as a team. Contrary to what you are suggesting, I don't recall too many individual goals scored by Derby forwards in the last year or so, so somebody must be lining them up for others to put away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 It's 'made a mistake' not 'do a mistake' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 It's 'made a mistake' not 'do a mistake' That has been irritating me most of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 He will score more than Martin and Sammon (in my opinion), bookmark this thread and we'lll see who's right next year. So what? Again I have to point out that Cardiff, Hull and Brighton all managed to make the playoffs last season without having a goalscorer above Wardy in the charts... And I think Cardiff scored the 3rd most goals in the league AND didn't have a player score double figures for the season... It's 'made a mistake' not 'do a mistake' Technically 'make a mistake' is the equivalent to 'do a mistake' if you're being a pedant - You have your tenses wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcdcfc28 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 So what? Again I have to point out that Cardiff, Hull and Brighton all managed to make the playoffs last season without having a goalscorer above Wardy in the charts... And I think Cardiff scored the 3rd most goals in the league AND didn't have a player score double figures for the season... Technically 'make a mistake' is the equivalent to 'do a mistake' if you're being a pedant - You have your tenses wrong...LOL. You failed to mention that the sides you've brought up also conceded between ten and twenty less goals than us last season. You also failed to mentioned Watford had Vydra who scored 22 and also Deeney (20). Leicester had Nugent and Wood who scored 18 and 22 respectively And Palace had Murray who scored 30 Good theory you had there kiddo, but unfortunately it means nothing unless you have a decent defence, which we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 [quote name="cheron85" post="473095" timestamp= Technically 'make a mistake' is the equivalent to 'do a mistake' if you're being a pedant - You have your tenses wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramexpat Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Hes gone Doncaster and scored 2 in 2 , not exactly Pele is he ,, he was poor at Derby, and poor players move on ,, thats what happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramble On Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 He could score goals but he wasnt the all rounded player we needed. He did a job for a while and played his fair share. Plus run ins with NC wouldnt of helped him, its a win win for player and manager but not necessarily for our club as he was such an important player to have from the bench a bit like Peschi in his latter days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 He could score goals but he wasnt the all rounded player we needed. He did a job for a while and played his fair share. Plus run ins with NC wouldnt of helped him, its a win win for player and manager but not necessarily for our club as he was such an important player to have from the bench a bit like Peschi in his latter days. see, this is my point. WHY do we need an all-rounded player? WHO says? Have you ever heard the saying "the jack of all trades is a master of none"? Well in my mind, we need a 'specialist' not an all-rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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