Boycie Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Brian Clough also wasn't afraid to buy players then discard them shortly afterward when better ones became available (Pat Wright, Arthur Stewart, Richie Barker, Frank Wignall etc). thats where Nigel gets its from. Only he buys them, and never plays them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 sorry, I don't want Stability. We have stability. We a stably inconsistent, frustrating, disappointing, flattering, deceptive, uninspiring, underachieving etc..etc.etc No, keep your stability, I wan't growth, and improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 If we finish 11 th then you'll be happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Right, so now Nigel is Brian Clough AND Alex Ferguson rolled into 1? He sometimes wears track suits like Bob Paisley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmini Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Imagined what? Having those discussions? No. I may not have had them in this forum, but I have had them with the Clough romanticists struggling to find genuine footballing reasons to keep him in a job. Please do not quote Sir Alex Ferguson as a comparison. He went to Manchester United with a pedigree, he had also managed in a world cup and European competition. No offence, but an silly silly example. Not a silly example at. He took Aberdeen to European glory and nearly lost his job at United after some very poor results in the early days. Sadly I have the notion that managers need time to build a club. I may be totally wrong of course. But I just think that is the way nowadays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Im personally glad we have stability at our football club - I wouldn't give him a 10 year contract or anything, but unless something drastic happens then I wouldn't get rid either. I take great pride in having Nigel Clough at our club, it's also been nice to see some of the comments by other fans, and appreciate the job he is doing, some people obviously just want results and don't care about the club as long as the wins keep rolling in, but, personally I like seeing us trying to build something. I was told this just tonight... [size=2]genuinly i think if some of our players went derby then clough would make them awesome[/size] [size=2]like mcccormack i think u would sign and then be able to sell him after a year for about 5 million[/size] Sadly a player like McCormack would quickly find himself on the bench. Eventually out of the club for daring to have a bit of egotistical swagger and flair. There's no room for showponies in a Nigel Clough side, work-horses all the way. I'm scared that pretty soon, Will Hughes will realise how good he is and start developing a small ego, and then he ends up like Bueno did, on the bench and isolated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey B Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Here we go again. Nigel Clough will be Derby County's manager as long as the current owners are in place. You can quote me as much as you like. But I tell you now that will be the case. He is building the club for the long term like Ferguson has done at some northern club. Just look how the academy has developed under his tenure, It will take many years to achieve whatever they are after but they will get there in the end. And. don't throw all this garbage at me that I am happy to be patient and should expect more. Know matter how much we all grumble the aim of the club will not change So buckle up and be a part of the bumpy journey Can you tell me how he has developed the academy? Name the players he has brought in, developed and progressed in the last 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Giles Barnes? No, that was before his time wasn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Not a silly example at. He took Aberdeen to European glory and nearly lost his job at United after some very poor results in the early days. Sadly I have the notion that managers need time to build a club. I may be totally wrong of course. But I just think that is the way nowadays I apologise, you ARE right, I also think a manager needs time to build a club, there has to be signs though that the foundation is sound and the work is in progress. I think after 4 years, there should be more than what there currently is. Make no mistake, once Hughes and Hendrick are sold, we become a very average side again, needing a complete overhaul of players and we'll still be sitting here arguing about needing a left back, central midfielders, and a striker. We should be a lot further along in our 'turnaround' than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmini Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hendrick, Hughes, Lelan, O'Brien, Hoganson, Freeman. The lad from Carlisle, Hanson, and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Brian Clough also wasn't afraid to buy players then discard them shortly afterward when better ones became available (Pat Wright, Arthur Stewart, Richie Barker, Frank Wignall etc). Yeh,always remember him saying Roy Mac would be gone if he found a better CH.Always wondered what would have happened if he'd got Waggie-surely not the end of the King? Seem to remember he tried playing 3 strikers for a spell and it didn't exactly work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hendrick, Hughes, Lelan, O'Brien, Hoganson, Freeman. The lad from Carlisle, Hanson, and more apart from them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Savage held us back for 2 years, so maybe we need to give him 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmini Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I agree totally that we should be higher in the league and pushing for promotion, and it is frustrating. We will get there one day 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 apart from them.... Pringle. From Ilkeston to Rovrum in a couple of years. All thanks to development under Nige. Football genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hendrick, Hughes, Lelan, O'Brien, Hoganson, Freeman. The lad from Carlisle, Hanson, and more What lad from Carlisle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Freeman? Didn't we buy him from Forest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I apologise, you ARE right, I also think a manager needs time to build a club, there has to be signs though that the foundation is sound and the work is in progress. I think after 4 years, there should be more than what there currently is. Make no mistake, once Hughes and Hendrick are sold, we become a very average side again, needing a complete overhaul of players and we'll still be sitting here arguing about needing a left back, central midfielders, and a striker. We should be a lot further along in our 'turnaround' than this. ...and if a new manager came,do you think Hughes and Hendrick wouldn't be sold,and that he'd be given a heap of cash to sign the players you talk of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Freeman? Didn't we buy him from Forest? No, his contract had run out, forest only wanted stellar signings so we picked him up as a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Freeman? Didn't we buy him from Forest? yes, for our academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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