Flying Fokker

The Clubs have paid the players wages.  The Prem parachute payments have always been a problem regarding the chance to go up.  The owners are all as mad as each other.  My club, Coventry City had years of overspend even in the Premiership.  The fans are the victims.  I'm not convinced this Premier League is worth the risk for those who want to get there anyway.  The Rams, Coventry City- down to League 2 , Bolton, Wigan, Sheffield, Bristol City, Middlesborough, Portsmouth, Cardiff, Swansea, Charlton,  Sunderland, Ipswich.  Jeez, i never realised just how precarious the league structure is.  
The EFL has a lot to answer for.

The Clubs have paid the players wages.  The Prem parachute payments have always been a problem regarding the chance to go up.  The owners are all as mad as each other.  My club, Coventry City had years of overspend even in the Premiership.  The fans are the victims.  I'm not convinced this Premier League is worth the risk for those who want to get there anyway.  The Rams, Coventry City- down to League 2 , Bolton, Wigan, Sheffield, Bristol City, Middlesborough, Portsmouth, Cardiff, Swansea, Charlton,  Sunderland, Ipswich.  Jeez, i never realised just how precarious the league structure is.  
The EFL has a lot to answer for.

The Clubs have paid the players wages.  The Prem parachute payments have always been a problem regarding the chance to go up.  The owners are all as mad as each other.  My club, Coventry City had years of overspend even in the Premiership.  The fans are the victims.  I'm not convinced this Premier League is worth the risk for those who want to get there anyway.  The Rams, Coventry City- down to League 2 , Bolton, Wigan, Sheffield, Bristol City, Middlesborough, Portsmouth, Cardiff, Swansea, Charlton,  Sunderland, Ipswich.  Jeez, i never realised just how precarious the league structure is.  
The EFL has a lot to answer for.

The Clubs have paid the players wages.  The Prem parachute payments have always been a problem regarding the chance to go up.  The owners are all as mad as each other.  My club, Coventry City had years of overspend even in the Premiership.  The fans are the victims.  I'm not convinced this Premier League is worth the risk for those who want to get there anyway.  The Rams, Coventry City- down to League 2 , Bolton, Wigan, Sheffield, Bristol City, Middlesborough, Portsmouth, Cardiff, Swansea, Charlton,  Sunderland, Ipswich.  Jeez, i never realised just how precarious the league structure is.  
The EFL has a lot to answer for.

Friday 1st April is pivotal in the history of DCFC from what has been written by Percy et al. If it transpires we don't have a PB that comes up to the valuation (and it seems that may be the case)and Q have gone to the nth degree, then MM and Pearce will be the most despised people not only in Derby and Derbyshire but in homes all across the country, and around the world. Chelsea takeover will be put in the background whilst our demise will be all over Sky. Money, as so many have said in the past, has ruined this beautiful game. Greedy agents and some greedy players have taken our money and run. Very very sad tonight for everyone affected, including my son and myself. It's like sitting at the side of a bed where you are watching someone so precious to you ebbing away in front of eyes and you can't do anything about it. Please Mel DON'T LET THIS MAGNIFICENT CLUB DIE - I BEG YOU!!!

We simply have to survive as a club and as fans buy into a long term rebuild project.
None of this multiple manager sackings if we don't get promoted by Christmas whatever league we may be in. None of this demanding spending money every window. It's going to be painful and we have to understand and go with it. Many fans won't like it but we have to look at Luton and Coventry as examples we must follow.

If and it's a big if we do start as a pheonix club i'm confident it'll be in the National League, The clubs in the lower leagues will not be able to cope with our away support, H&S and all that, The Police would object as valueble recourses would be moved to those away games.
Then of course we would have to apply to the relevant FA

That is the sensible route.  However, I'm not sure you will need it anyway.  Coventry City fans started a phoenix club.  Coventry United.  They started about the 8th or 9th tier and have progressed through the leagues.  Their biggest win 24-0. 
But if the Rams were liquidated they would probably be in the top of the non-league clubs purely due to the fan base. They may even be re-elected to the league 2 status due to this.  
The journey for the Coventry United owners has now taken a different route but I guess they will always be renamed.  Again, I think they would probably drop no more that down to the first tier of non-league.
 

Neutral viewpoint.   Ask a Sunderland fan what needs to be done.   
You make great points and the money will certainly help once the transfer embargo is lifted.  Teams can go up successfully but it is built on exactly what you say.    The team I support, Coventry had an extremely low budget for several years because of the ridiculous outcomes of alienating the fans. 
The team had one of the poorest budgets but the manager assembled his best possible squad which actually saw us pull back from League 2 (1 season) and the following couple of years promotion push.  City's budget was affected by the revenues gained the previous seasons.  
This brings us back to The Rams. This season attendances have been as consistently high.  It bodes well for next season providing the players that make the difference want to play in League One.  If not, get rid as soon as possible because they will pull the whole team down to the mediocrity of several seasons there.  The Rams will be big payers for the right talent.  
Sunderland seem to be a fixture in their league as they miss out on promotion play-off success most seasons despite having high revenues.  Derby may still have some debt of course but I'd put a few quid on promotion next season.  
BTW Rooney has done a great job so far although the other teams seem to be doing a good job of relegation themselves.  The results are being ground out but some of those draws will cost The Rams.    Mid-table (Would be under-achieving in any other circumstances for Derby).  It is so difficult for fans because Rooney has fought out some solid results against clubs without the sanctions when their fans would have expected you to lie down.  This was our bug bear as well during our journey to league 2.
 
 

Neutral viewpoint.   Ask a Sunderland fan what needs to be done.   
You make great points and the money will certainly help once the transfer embargo is lifted.  Teams can go up successfully but it is built on exactly what you say.    The team I support, Coventry had an extremely low budget for several years because of the ridiculous outcomes of alienating the fans. 
The team had one of the poorest budgets but the manager assembled his best possible squad which actually saw us pull back from League 2 (1 season) and the following couple of years promotion push.  City's budget was affected by the revenues gained the previous seasons.  
This brings us back to The Rams. This season attendances have been as consistently high.  It bodes well for next season providing the players that make the difference want to play in League One.  If not, get rid as soon as possible because they will pull the whole team down to the mediocrity of several seasons there.  The Rams will be big payers for the right talent.  
Sunderland seem to be a fixture in their league as they miss out on promotion play-off success most seasons despite having high revenues.  Derby may still have some debt of course but I'd put a few quid on promotion next season.  
BTW Rooney has done a great job so far although the other teams seem to be doing a good job of relegation themselves.  The results are being ground out but some of those draws will cost The Rams.    Mid-table (Would be under-achieving in any other circumstances for Derby).  It is so difficult for fans because Rooney has fought out some solid results against clubs without the sanctions when their fans would have expected you to lie down.  This was our bug bear as well during our journey to league 2.
 
 

Neutral viewpoint.   Ask a Sunderland fan what needs to be done.   
You make great points and the money will certainly help once the transfer embargo is lifted.  Teams can go up successfully but it is built on exactly what you say.    The team I support, Coventry had an extremely low budget for several years because of the ridiculous outcomes of alienating the fans. 
The team had one of the poorest budgets but the manager assembled his best possible squad which actually saw us pull back from League 2 (1 season) and the following couple of years promotion push.  City's budget was affected by the revenues gained the previous seasons.  
This brings us back to The Rams. This season attendances have been as consistently high.  It bodes well for next season providing the players that make the difference want to play in League One.  If not, get rid as soon as possible because they will pull the whole team down to the mediocrity of several seasons there.  The Rams will be big payers for the right talent.  
Sunderland seem to be a fixture in their league as they miss out on promotion play-off success most seasons despite having high revenues.  Derby may still have some debt of course but I'd put a few quid on promotion next season.  
BTW Rooney has done a great job so far although the other teams seem to be doing a good job of relegation themselves.  The results are being ground out but some of those draws will cost The Rams.    Mid-table (Would be under-achieving in any other circumstances for Derby).  It is so difficult for fans because Rooney has fought out some solid results against clubs without the sanctions when their fans would have expected you to lie down.  This was our bug bear as well during our journey to league 2.
 
 

Neutral viewpoint.   Ask a Sunderland fan what needs to be done.   
You make great points and the money will certainly help once the transfer embargo is lifted.  Teams can go up successfully but it is built on exactly what you say.    The team I support, Coventry had an extremely low budget for several years because of the ridiculous outcomes of alienating the fans. 
The team had one of the poorest budgets but the manager assembled his best possible squad which actually saw us pull back from League 2 (1 season) and the following couple of years promotion push.  City's budget was affected by the revenues gained the previous seasons.  
This brings us back to The Rams. This season attendances have been as consistently high.  It bodes well for next season providing the players that make the difference want to play in League One.  If not, get rid as soon as possible because they will pull the whole team down to the mediocrity of several seasons there.  The Rams will be big payers for the right talent.  
Sunderland seem to be a fixture in their league as they miss out on promotion play-off success most seasons despite having high revenues.  Derby may still have some debt of course but I'd put a few quid on promotion next season.  
BTW Rooney has done a great job so far although the other teams seem to be doing a good job of relegation themselves.  The results are being ground out but some of those draws will cost The Rams.    Mid-table (Would be under-achieving in any other circumstances for Derby).  It is so difficult for fans because Rooney has fought out some solid results against clubs without the sanctions when their fans would have expected you to lie down.  This was our bug bear as well during our journey to league 2.
 
 

I hear different from my source
Colins Steins Pile said:
Word on the arse grape vine is that there is an imposter on SkyBlues Talk reckons Ashley offered 15p in the £1. 
Actually, he drunkenly text Derbys admin in the early hrs of Saturday to say he'd pay the lot.  He was then found the following morning tied to a post outside Pride Park holding an empty yard of ale glass, half a cold kebab and wearing a t- shirt saying I LUV SHEEP.  
I would take most I've heards with a pinch of salt- unless it's Colins Pile
 

Derby is a great club.  My 'second team' as I moved to Coventry in the 1965.  The only issue with any takeover is motivation of the owners.  We ended up with SISU who thought they could run rough shod over everyone in their path.  This took us down to League 2. I have no respect for them or the journey they took us on.  If you have several bidders you are in with a better chance than us.  Hopefully this will resolve soon and you will be in recovery mode for a while.  If you end up with a hedge fund or the likes you will struggle to make headway. Although they get paid on results they also hold tight purse strings.  I guess it's a case of good accounting and having a strategic focus...They got it wrong at Coventry.  Recruiting crap managers for several years, running out expensive player contracts and pitching their model on stable balance sheets.  This extended to us fans becoming nomads on 2 occasions.  Long story.  
I think Derby will take a bit of time to flourish again.  You may go down but the last couple of months prove that you have a solid team on the pitch ATM.

Derby is a great club.  My 'second team' as I moved to Coventry in the 1965.  The only issue with any takeover is motivation of the owners.  We ended up with SISU who thought they could run rough shod over everyone in their path.  This took us down to League 2. I have no respect for them or the journey they took us on.  If you have several bidders you are in with a better chance than us.  Hopefully this will resolve soon and you will be in recovery mode for a while.  If you end up with a hedge fund or the likes you will struggle to make headway. Although they get paid on results they also hold tight purse strings.  I guess it's a case of good accounting and having a strategic focus...They got it wrong at Coventry.  Recruiting crap managers for several years, running out expensive player contracts and pitching their model on stable balance sheets.  This extended to us fans becoming nomads on 2 occasions.  Long story.  
I think Derby will take a bit of time to flourish again.  You may go down but the last couple of months prove that you have a solid team on the pitch ATM.

Derby is a great club.  My 'second team' as I moved to Coventry in the 1965.  The only issue with any takeover is motivation of the owners.  We ended up with SISU who thought they could run rough shod over everyone in their path.  This took us down to League 2. I have no respect for them or the journey they took us on.  If you have several bidders you are in with a better chance than us.  Hopefully this will resolve soon and you will be in recovery mode for a while.  If you end up with a hedge fund or the likes you will struggle to make headway. Although they get paid on results they also hold tight purse strings.  I guess it's a case of good accounting and having a strategic focus...They got it wrong at Coventry.  Recruiting crap managers for several years, running out expensive player contracts and pitching their model on stable balance sheets.  This extended to us fans becoming nomads on 2 occasions.  Long story.  
I think Derby will take a bit of time to flourish again.  You may go down but the last couple of months prove that you have a solid team on the pitch ATM.

Derby is a great club.  My 'second team' as I moved to Coventry in the 1965.  The only issue with any takeover is motivation of the owners.  We ended up with SISU who thought they could run rough shod over everyone in their path.  This took us down to League 2. I have no respect for them or the journey they took us on.  If you have several bidders you are in with a better chance than us.  Hopefully this will resolve soon and you will be in recovery mode for a while.  If you end up with a hedge fund or the likes you will struggle to make headway. Although they get paid on results they also hold tight purse strings.  I guess it's a case of good accounting and having a strategic focus...They got it wrong at Coventry.  Recruiting crap managers for several years, running out expensive player contracts and pitching their model on stable balance sheets.  This extended to us fans becoming nomads on 2 occasions.  Long story.  
I think Derby will take a bit of time to flourish again.  You may go down but the last couple of months prove that you have a solid team on the pitch ATM.

Derby is a great club.  My 'second team' as I moved to Coventry in the 1965.  The only issue with any takeover is motivation of the owners.  We ended up with SISU who thought they could run rough shod over everyone in their path.  This took us down to League 2. I have no respect for them or the journey they took us on.  If you have several bidders you are in with a better chance than us.  Hopefully this will resolve soon and you will be in recovery mode for a while.  If you end up with a hedge fund or the likes you will struggle to make headway. Although they get paid on results they also hold tight purse strings.  I guess it's a case of good accounting and having a strategic focus...They got it wrong at Coventry.  Recruiting crap managers for several years, running out expensive player contracts and pitching their model on stable balance sheets.  This extended to us fans becoming nomads on 2 occasions.  Long story.  
I think Derby will take a bit of time to flourish again.  You may go down but the last couple of months prove that you have a solid team on the pitch ATM.

Derby is a great club.  My 'second team' as I moved to Coventry in the 1965.  The only issue with any takeover is motivation of the owners.  We ended up with SISU who thought they could run rough shod over everyone in their path.  This took us down to League 2. I have no respect for them or the journey they took us on.  If you have several bidders you are in with a better chance than us.  Hopefully this will resolve soon and you will be in recovery mode for a while.  If you end up with a hedge fund or the likes you will struggle to make headway. Although they get paid on results they also hold tight purse strings.  I guess it's a case of good accounting and having a strategic focus...They got it wrong at Coventry.  Recruiting crap managers for several years, running out expensive player contracts and pitching their model on stable balance sheets.  This extended to us fans becoming nomads on 2 occasions.  Long story.  
I think Derby will take a bit of time to flourish again.  You may go down but the last couple of months prove that you have a solid team on the pitch ATM.

I hate to say this, but if a lot of debt is carried by Mel he will have leverage in any bid.  He may agree to take on the debt again.  In which case the Administrators will have no choice to accept because it is the best outcome. if he walks away it is more of a level playing field. 
One of the barriers to having new owners at Coventry was that SISU did exactly that.  We still have them hanging around.

Derby is a great club.  My 'second team' as I moved to Coventry in the 1965.  The only issue with any takeover is motivation of the owners.  We ended up with SISU who thought they could run rough shod over everyone in their path.  This took us down to League 2. I have no respect for them or the journey they took us on.  If you have several bidders you are in with a better chance than us.  Hopefully this will resolve soon and you will be in recovery mode for a while.  If you end up with a hedge fund or the likes you will struggle to make headway. Although they get paid on results they also hold tight purse strings.  I guess it's a case of good accounting and having a strategic focus...They got it wrong at Coventry.  Recruiting crap managers for several years, running out expensive player contracts and pitching their model on stable balance sheets.  This extended to us fans becoming nomads on 2 occasions.  Long story.  
I think Derby will take a bit of time to flourish again.  You may go down but the last couple of months prove that you have a solid team on the pitch ATM.

Oh dear...I really hope the Club buy the stadium.  Paying a landlord is a millstone around your neck.  Alternatively you could play your games in another city like your fellow Championship members Coventry City did on 2 occasions (Northampton 1 season and Birmingham for 2 seasons), over a 5 year period.  The crowds at Northampton were 1/8 of the attendances in the city for several months.  Then BCFC,  50% of previous season attendance for some games but far lower most of the time. 
Back to what is best for Derby: Own your ground. Own your training ground. Respect you, the fans.

Oh dear...I really hope the Club buy the stadium.  Paying a landlord is a millstone around your neck.  Alternatively you could play your games in another city like your fellow Championship members Coventry City did on 2 occasions (Northampton 1 season and Birmingham for 2 seasons), over a 5 year period.  The crowds at Northampton were 1/8 of the attendances in the city for several months.  Then BCFC,  50% of previous season attendance for some games but far lower most of the time. 
Back to what is best for Derby: Own your ground. Own your training ground. Respect you, the fans.

Oh dear...I really hope the Club buy the stadium.  Paying a landlord is a millstone around your neck.  Alternatively you could play your games in another city like your fellow Championship members Coventry City did on 2 occasions (Northampton 1 season and Birmingham for 2 seasons), over a 5 year period.  The crowds at Northampton were 1/8 of the attendances in the city for several months.  Then BCFC,  50% of previous season attendance for some games but far lower most of the time. 
Back to what is best for Derby: Own your ground. Own your training ground. Respect you, the fans.

Oh dear...I really hope the Club buy the stadium.  Paying a landlord is a millstone around your neck.  Alternatively you could play your games in another city like your fellow Championship members Coventry City did on 2 occasions (Northampton 1 season and Birmingham for 2 seasons), over a 5 year period.  The crowds at Northampton were 1/8 of the attendances in the city for several months.  Then BCFC,  50% of previous season attendance for some games but far lower most of the time. 
Back to what is best for Derby: Own your ground. Own your training ground. Respect you, the fans.