Ramifications

I had a crush on her

The responsibility is Mel Morris' and his alone. Covid afected all organisations, that's a fact. That does not mean Mel is not responsible for the business he owned. That I never really bought the "covid cause the administration" line - with fans back in grounds, costs much reduced and things starting to recver across all sectors it's a bit of a stretch that it was at this point things had to end. That it coincided with Mel wanting out of paying for losses and realising he wasn't going to get the sale he wanted, he decided on this course of action.
All the other factors are subserviant to that.
As for anyone saying "fans expectations" or "fans were happy he spent the money" that's just BS. Fans aren't responsible for the good governance of a business turning over tens of millions of pounds a year.
 

Why would any Derby fan have empathy or any kind of positive feelings for Mel Morris? he has burnt the club to the ground!

Shame we had to enter administration then. With a 9 point penalty we could have stayed up. We will need play off form to stay up now, unfortunately not likely without squad additions. 

just to touch on it again it can't be understated how important it was rooney keeping us up last season.
If we had gone down on that day we would be facing these deductions in league one and probably looking at league two next season and then who was going to inherit the debts we have in the english 4th division?
That Sheff W game could go down as the most important in our history, and rooney was the manager that day and for me he will always be remembered for that and should be rewarded when the club finally has some stability off the pitch

Well lads if efl dudction another 9 points not that I think they should have not done so. But well for me go and play with freedome and no fear and help us get new owners through the door. Yes we are going come up from league one but there competion we stand a chance of winning and we might as well have a decent cup run in the fa cup run.
You have most loyal supporters that will follow you any were we go. But your are our Derby county players and we love you.
As chant goes 
Oh Derby we do oh Derby we love you.
Derby till I die
And to efl we shall not ever ever ever forgive you or forget this I promise you that and one other person you know who you are I hope you are happy with your selfs.

Baby Joshua born just over an hour ago..Nice and healthy and the wife is fine too..couldn't be there as have 2 girls under 4 but they are excited..cheers for all the kind reactions..might find time for a beer ? 

The title of this thread is embarrassing. The poster who started it has disappeared. Can it be closed and consigned to the archives? 

Nope. 
He's described some vague idea is all.
But neither does he have previous in football for his actions to be judged against like this pair. 

Need to be able to offer him a new contract soon. The kid is going places and hopefully with Derby.

We shouldn't give up. We were a similar amount of points from safety this time last season. If I remember correctly we never properly started to climb the table until December. It's still possible. We just need to turn draws into wins. It's fine margins. 

They are small town bus company owners who didn't have a clue how to run a club the size of the Rangers. As far as I could tell they had no liquid capital (that they were willing to put in, anyway). I dont know much about Kirchner but if the only alternatives are the Easdales or Ashley, I'm in the American's corner! 

That was a stonking performance from the Rams today. I know people are critical of us for our lack of results, and our alleged lack of quality, but given the circumstances, and the squad we've been left with we did well, and should have won the match today.
And for probably the first time this season the reason we didn't get a penalty is that there weren't any penalty incidents to shout about. I actually thought that the ref was absolutely even-handed and fair ----- and then he blew the whistle.
It is very interesting that he was very quick with the card for Byrne for what was a clash of bodies rather than a foul. Perhaps the Millwall player made a bit of a meal of it. More on that later. But earlier Wallace pulled Ebosele back when he would have been clean away, but no card. How he stayed on the pitch I have no idea, because he committed about 6 or 7 yellow card offences, most of which not even warranting a free kick. It has happened in just about every match against Derby, and he never, ever gets a yellow card. Millwall should have been down to 10 men way before half time. Unless it is the fact that there are two Wallaces playing for Millwall, and they are both dirty 0ytnvod**£"@@'s. On numerous occasions a high ball forward by Derby would result in the Derby player jumping for the ball, and just after take-off he would be shoved in the back making him lurch forwards and jump under the ball, allowing an easy Millwall clearance. This kept happening right in front of the ref time and time and time again, with nothing every given. What's wrong with the man in the middle? And he was totally conned by Bennett again for the sending off. All Byrne did was run across his path to put him off his stride. If Bennett has simply jinked to his right he would have been clean away, but dived in totally the wrong direction and then urged the ref to get his cards out. The ref simply couldn't wait to oblige, in contrast to his treatment of Millwall offenders, where he simply wouldn't get his cards out at all. It is telling that Millwall players were congratulating Bennett for getting his opponent sent off, almost as if that was his intention all along - hence making a meal of the offence for the first booking.
And to the match: despite the claims of lack of quality, there was a large amount of great passing, with very few occasions of being sloppy with the ball. Some of our link up play was really good, and with just a bit of luck we could have got the second goal we needed so much. I though "Here we go again" with Baldock in the first 15 minutes when, although running around a lot, wasted several good moves. He got better, and managed a number of shots on target, a huge improvement. A bit of confidence and he will find the net. However, as Roy Mac5 said, Stretton is scoring for fun, yet he didn't even make the squad - somewhat curious when we are struggling to score goals. 
Yet again Max Bird excelled, and has regained that ability to step into space to receive the ball, and always wants to go forwards - such a contrast to earlier in the season, and to much of last season as well. Brilliant, Max. I was thinking of him for man of the match, but that has to go to Ebosele, for his bets performance to date The only thing he did wrong was during that end to end run in the second half, when he ended up running the ball out of play. He should have bent his run in front of the defender to draw the foul, and timed right it would have happened inside the box, then we would have got our blatant penalty shout turned down! We have got standards to maintain, after all! And he went to left back after Byrne went off, and did well there as well. A superb performance. Jason Night put a hefty shift in as well, and again, only one thing wrong really - he shot when through on goal should have been a couple of feet higher so the keeper's leg couldn't block the shot.
Sadly, something I mentioned before struck again - our total inability to mark wide players, so they are always in acres of space, and we then have to race across the pitch to try and close them down, by which time the damage is done. I don't think it is zonal marking  because nobody is marking the zone that the winger is in. It simply that we seem to pull our fullbacks in towards the middle of the park to condense things there. But it leaves to door wide open for wingers and full backs to exploit.
After Wednesday night this performance was a tremendous reaction, and to be the team threatening to score after going down to ten men was a terrific sight for the fans. We need some luck, and although people say that you make your own luck, we are busting a gut but the shelves are empty at the luck shop. It is also said that when you are under the cosh, Lady Luck smiles but turns away. The number of times we block a shot and the ball falls to the feet of another striker for a simple tap in, yet for us several times today we'd have a shot blocked and the ball just would fall near a Rams player.
There is still hope because these players are capable of more, and we are due some decisions going our way, and a few luck bounces as well. Watch out, whoever it happens against!

I don't even agree with that. The players we have are playing well the majority of games - where would we really be in the league? Also you can see that the youngsters are getting more experience, Knighty is starting to hit his stride. Bielik might give us a lift. Baldock is getting better as he gets more games, his movement up front was better. Stretton is scoring again. CKR is fit. ...

Tell me no teams have gone on a post-Christmas run and made up points? We've still got games against the teams in the mix. We're mostly playing well, showing good skill and good endeavour. The luck needed will soon also be ours. #COYR

There's lots of games left, ridiculous to write us off at this stage!

Back at the hotel safe and sound, been a decent day overall. At least we didn’t lose,off to the bar now. COYR.

win lose or draw im hoping the fans on here appreciate the superb effort put in by the lads today...even with 10 we are still looking to give it a proper go...

positive is we are dominating the game - this lot have been on a great run and we have easily been the better team by far..they look really poor and have offerred nothing apart from accepting our injury time gift..
If we play the same 2nd half we win comfortably..

so we dominate the game - get the goal we fully deserved..
Get into HT but no we get bent out of shape for no reason, Byrne just pitiful as he so often is when he moves central totally ignoring the man he should be marking..but Roos was shockingly bad - any good keeper saves that all day long..
So disappointing we are way the better team and it has been a superb team performance but sloppy at the back undoes it all..

I was talking to my friend, who supports another club, he said they had former owners who did things like buy top deluxe Range Rovers for the top brass, rent luxury apartments in London, all charged to the football club. Just some examples of how individuals might use club funds for their own means.
Someone recently posted on here about how they first consider why any potential new owner would want to buy Derby County in the first place?
This seems a very sensible position to start from. 
I voted for Chris Kirchner. I might be completely, naively, wrong. Reading his letter though, he seems to have the right kind of ego. He wants to be liked by the fans, hopefully that would always remain the case. It seemed like he wants the club to be successful, potentially winning trophies, for the glory and achievement, not simply to cash in and make a quick buck in a couple of years. 
 

I was talking to my friend, who supports another club, he said they had former owners who did things like buy top deluxe Range Rovers for the top brass, rent luxury apartments in London, all charged to the football club. Just some examples of how individuals might use club funds for their own means.
Someone recently posted on here about how they first consider why any potential new owner would want to buy Derby County in the first place?
This seems a very sensible position to start from. 
I voted for Chris Kirchner. I might be completely, naively, wrong. Reading his letter though, he seems to have the right kind of ego. He wants to be liked by the fans, hopefully that would always remain the case. It seemed like he wants the club to be successful, potentially winning trophies, for the glory and achievement, not simply to cash in and make a quick buck in a couple of years. 
 

I was talking to my friend, who supports another club, he said they had former owners who did things like buy top deluxe Range Rovers for the top brass, rent luxury apartments in London, all charged to the football club. Just some examples of how individuals might use club funds for their own means.
Someone recently posted on here about how they first consider why any potential new owner would want to buy Derby County in the first place?
This seems a very sensible position to start from. 
I voted for Chris Kirchner. I might be completely, naively, wrong. Reading his letter though, he seems to have the right kind of ego. He wants to be liked by the fans, hopefully that would always remain the case. It seemed like he wants the club to be successful, potentially winning trophies, for the glory and achievement, not simply to cash in and make a quick buck in a couple of years. 
 

Well to the players we need you come out fighting and give everything you have and more you can not let that snake win. You go to millwall get into there faces and not back down to them. You need to play like you did against WBA we know you can do it and now go and get those 3 points that we desperately need right now. When chances come shoot on site on millwall goal and try get them in there goal. Go and put things right with a win against millwall. 1600 going already if Pay on the day we had nearly 3k at Barnsley you will probley get well over 2k for millwall.

We definitely need to steer well clear of Ronnie and Reggie.