kevinhectoring

it seems very unlikely MM is in cahoots w DC. But it’s possible MM has some sort of ongoing interest - overage is common in that sort of contract. And if DC agreed to it I’d guess it was because it was the only way he could get MM to sell him the stadium. 
Doubt that would have been a factor in WR’s decision — div 1 is a big stretch for him and it needed to be on his terms
Anyway, WR can hardly complain, he likes a bit of overage

So what a ruse by mr Clowes, to save us from quantuma !
he’s quite the man and such a fan, loves cloughie and Steve bloomer
Yes pride park’s now his curtilage, so much is not in doubt
but we don’t know who’ll own the club until this has played out 
 
 
he’s named his price (we hope it’s nice) he’s now a stalking horse
If needed he will take the reins, jump fences on the course
But will he win the derby (and is that what we want most?)
Or will a shirebrook pony come and pip him at the post ?

Happy to talk football  I understand enough to recognise that despite his considerable strengths in recruiting and motivating players, WR is - at this early stage in his career - in that category of managers who do not make effective decisions "in play". (Our national team suffers the same handicap, so we will need luck to go all the way in the world cup.)  I also think WR's team selection last season became increasingly questionable. You will consider it a foolish statement, and I've not said it before, but I think that any strong championship manager would have had us very close to survival, if not staying up, last season, particularly if Steadman could prove an adequate replacement for Jags (who incidentally ate very little cake over lockdown). The fundamental problem with last season was that WR decided on a style of play (time will tell, he may only have one) and forced it on a thin squad that did not have the wherewithal to make it consistently successful. I still watch Ravel's great team goal with elation though - and with sadness because of the shades of Wenger (someone I admire) and his commitment to a failing style of football.   
Rooney was a mixed blessing old friend. His PR team reflects his net worth, but for him we were as a snail is to garlic - a vehicle. Those who say he will walk into his next job may be right - but if you listen between the lines to the pundits you discover his competence as a manager is far from accepted, inside football. My money would be on Lampard and Gerrard to have much longer and more successful managerial careers that WR. I'd guess Stretford understands that, which is why the Kirchner project (Preston first, by the way) made so much sense to him. 
You don't respond substantively to my posts, but you have several times called my loyalty as a fan into question. You'll know from the match day threads that whether or not I am using my season tickets (they are always used), I watch every game. We all have different lives and circumstances.  
I look forward to your customary abuse in return - it's ironic that you are so critical of social media 
 

Happy to talk football  I understand enough to recognise that despite his considerable strengths in recruiting and motivating players, WR is - at this early stage in his career - in that category of managers who do not make effective decisions "in play". (Our national team suffers the same handicap, so we will need luck to go all the way in the world cup.)  I also think WR's team selection last season became increasingly questionable. You will consider it a foolish statement, and I've not said it before, but I think that any strong championship manager would have had us very close to survival, if not staying up, last season, particularly if Steadman could prove an adequate replacement for Jags (who incidentally ate very little cake over lockdown). The fundamental problem with last season was that WR decided on a style of play (time will tell, he may only have one) and forced it on a thin squad that did not have the wherewithal to make it consistently successful. I still watch Ravel's great team goal with elation though - and with sadness because of the shades of Wenger (someone I admire) and his commitment to a failing style of football.   
Rooney was a mixed blessing old friend. His PR team reflects his net worth, but for him we were as a snail is to garlic - a vehicle. Those who say he will walk into his next job may be right - but if you listen between the lines to the pundits you discover his competence as a manager is far from accepted, inside football. My money would be on Lampard and Gerrard to have much longer and more successful managerial careers that WR. I'd guess Stretford understands that, which is why the Kirchner project (Preston first, by the way) made so much sense to him. 
You don't respond substantively to my posts, but you have several times called my loyalty as a fan into question. You'll know from the match day threads that whether or not I am using my season tickets (they are always used), I watch every game. We all have different lives and circumstances.  
I look forward to your customary abuse in return - it's ironic that you are so critical of social media 
 

The way I have read the news is that DC has given the club a loan will facilitate us to start negotiating contracts.

Happy to talk football  I understand enough to recognise that despite his considerable strengths in recruiting and motivating players, WR is - at this early stage in his career - in that category of managers who do not make effective decisions "in play". (Our national team suffers the same handicap, so we will need luck to go all the way in the world cup.)  I also think WR's team selection last season became increasingly questionable. You will consider it a foolish statement, and I've not said it before, but I think that any strong championship manager would have had us very close to survival, if not staying up, last season, particularly if Steadman could prove an adequate replacement for Jags (who incidentally ate very little cake over lockdown). The fundamental problem with last season was that WR decided on a style of play (time will tell, he may only have one) and forced it on a thin squad that did not have the wherewithal to make it consistently successful. I still watch Ravel's great team goal with elation though - and with sadness because of the shades of Wenger (someone I admire) and his commitment to a failing style of football.   
Rooney was a mixed blessing old friend. His PR team reflects his net worth, but for him we were as a snail is to garlic - a vehicle. Those who say he will walk into his next job may be right - but if you listen between the lines to the pundits you discover his competence as a manager is far from accepted, inside football. My money would be on Lampard and Gerrard to have much longer and more successful managerial careers that WR. I'd guess Stretford understands that, which is why the Kirchner project (Preston first, by the way) made so much sense to him. 
You don't respond substantively to my posts, but you have several times called my loyalty as a fan into question. You'll know from the match day threads that whether or not I am using my season tickets (they are always used), I watch every game. We all have different lives and circumstances.  
I look forward to your customary abuse in return - it's ironic that you are so critical of social media 
 

Happy to talk football  I understand enough to recognise that despite his considerable strengths in recruiting and motivating players, WR is - at this early stage in his career - in that category of managers who do not make effective decisions "in play". (Our national team suffers the same handicap, so we will need luck to go all the way in the world cup.)  I also think WR's team selection last season became increasingly questionable. You will consider it a foolish statement, and I've not said it before, but I think that any strong championship manager would have had us very close to survival, if not staying up, last season, particularly if Steadman could prove an adequate replacement for Jags (who incidentally ate very little cake over lockdown). The fundamental problem with last season was that WR decided on a style of play (time will tell, he may only have one) and forced it on a thin squad that did not have the wherewithal to make it consistently successful. I still watch Ravel's great team goal with elation though - and with sadness because of the shades of Wenger (someone I admire) and his commitment to a failing style of football.   
Rooney was a mixed blessing old friend. His PR team reflects his net worth, but for him we were as a snail is to garlic - a vehicle. Those who say he will walk into his next job may be right - but if you listen between the lines to the pundits you discover his competence as a manager is far from accepted, inside football. My money would be on Lampard and Gerrard to have much longer and more successful managerial careers that WR. I'd guess Stretford understands that, which is why the Kirchner project (Preston first, by the way) made so much sense to him. 
You don't respond substantively to my posts, but you have several times called my loyalty as a fan into question. You'll know from the match day threads that whether or not I am using my season tickets (they are always used), I watch every game. We all have different lives and circumstances.  
I look forward to your customary abuse in return - it's ironic that you are so critical of social media 
 

In the 60 years of supporting Derby County I've seen many managers and coaches, come and go, and in the future there will be many more, so despite all the efforts Wayne Rooney gave the club last season, he didn't actually, from a playing point of view, achieve very much.
Yes, there were several high spots, never losing at home to any of the top-six teams, and getting the fan base to support the team throughout the season, however the away performances were, at times, dire.
Like Frank Lampard, the media emphasis at times was more about Wayne Rooney, than the team, and in the best interests of the club, I think it was the best option that Rooney departed and we begin again.
In all those seasons, in my opinion, there have only been 3 good managerial teams - Clough & Taylor; Cox & McFarland and Smith & McClaren.
Undoubtedly, Derby County FC need stability, on and off the field, and I believe that can only be achieved by a solid business acumen in the boardroom and an understanding that running a football club is a different model to normal businesses, followed by an appointment of an experienced, "older" (but not too old( manager/coach, who not only "knows the league", but also where to find the up and coming players who are eager to impress and desire achieve higher things.

Happy to talk football  I understand enough to recognise that despite his considerable strengths in recruiting and motivating players, WR is - at this early stage in his career - in that category of managers who do not make effective decisions "in play". (Our national team suffers the same handicap, so we will need luck to go all the way in the world cup.)  I also think WR's team selection last season became increasingly questionable. You will consider it a foolish statement, and I've not said it before, but I think that any strong championship manager would have had us very close to survival, if not staying up, last season, particularly if Steadman could prove an adequate replacement for Jags (who incidentally ate very little cake over lockdown). The fundamental problem with last season was that WR decided on a style of play (time will tell, he may only have one) and forced it on a thin squad that did not have the wherewithal to make it consistently successful. I still watch Ravel's great team goal with elation though - and with sadness because of the shades of Wenger (someone I admire) and his commitment to a failing style of football.   
Rooney was a mixed blessing old friend. His PR team reflects his net worth, but for him we were as a snail is to garlic - a vehicle. Those who say he will walk into his next job may be right - but if you listen between the lines to the pundits you discover his competence as a manager is far from accepted, inside football. My money would be on Lampard and Gerrard to have much longer and more successful managerial careers that WR. I'd guess Stretford understands that, which is why the Kirchner project (Preston first, by the way) made so much sense to him. 
You don't respond substantively to my posts, but you have several times called my loyalty as a fan into question. You'll know from the match day threads that whether or not I am using my season tickets (they are always used), I watch every game. We all have different lives and circumstances.  
I look forward to your customary abuse in return - it's ironic that you are so critical of social media 
 

Regarding Rooney’s leaving, I remember when Brian Clough left. I was distraught. Thought we would be relegated, never win anything again. How wrong was I? So Rooney’s gone. Tough. But we’ll have a new manager. Who knows he might be better.

Good god it's a forum people's opinions etc etc just block someone if you don't want hear them .

Problem is, others then keep quoting them so you still see the dribble they write.
Not aimed at Kevin by the way ?

Makes me wonder what Appleby was stroking? 

Happy to talk football  I understand enough to recognise that despite his considerable strengths in recruiting and motivating players, WR is - at this early stage in his career - in that category of managers who do not make effective decisions "in play". (Our national team suffers the same handicap, so we will need luck to go all the way in the world cup.)  I also think WR's team selection last season became increasingly questionable. You will consider it a foolish statement, and I've not said it before, but I think that any strong championship manager would have had us very close to survival, if not staying up, last season, particularly if Steadman could prove an adequate replacement for Jags (who incidentally ate very little cake over lockdown). The fundamental problem with last season was that WR decided on a style of play (time will tell, he may only have one) and forced it on a thin squad that did not have the wherewithal to make it consistently successful. I still watch Ravel's great team goal with elation though - and with sadness because of the shades of Wenger (someone I admire) and his commitment to a failing style of football.   
Rooney was a mixed blessing old friend. His PR team reflects his net worth, but for him we were as a snail is to garlic - a vehicle. Those who say he will walk into his next job may be right - but if you listen between the lines to the pundits you discover his competence as a manager is far from accepted, inside football. My money would be on Lampard and Gerrard to have much longer and more successful managerial careers that WR. I'd guess Stretford understands that, which is why the Kirchner project (Preston first, by the way) made so much sense to him. 
You don't respond substantively to my posts, but you have several times called my loyalty as a fan into question. You'll know from the match day threads that whether or not I am using my season tickets (they are always used), I watch every game. We all have different lives and circumstances.  
I look forward to your customary abuse in return - it's ironic that you are so critical of social media 
 

Happy to talk football  I understand enough to recognise that despite his considerable strengths in recruiting and motivating players, WR is - at this early stage in his career - in that category of managers who do not make effective decisions "in play". (Our national team suffers the same handicap, so we will need luck to go all the way in the world cup.)  I also think WR's team selection last season became increasingly questionable. You will consider it a foolish statement, and I've not said it before, but I think that any strong championship manager would have had us very close to survival, if not staying up, last season, particularly if Steadman could prove an adequate replacement for Jags (who incidentally ate very little cake over lockdown). The fundamental problem with last season was that WR decided on a style of play (time will tell, he may only have one) and forced it on a thin squad that did not have the wherewithal to make it consistently successful. I still watch Ravel's great team goal with elation though - and with sadness because of the shades of Wenger (someone I admire) and his commitment to a failing style of football.   
Rooney was a mixed blessing old friend. His PR team reflects his net worth, but for him we were as a snail is to garlic - a vehicle. Those who say he will walk into his next job may be right - but if you listen between the lines to the pundits you discover his competence as a manager is far from accepted, inside football. My money would be on Lampard and Gerrard to have much longer and more successful managerial careers that WR. I'd guess Stretford understands that, which is why the Kirchner project (Preston first, by the way) made so much sense to him. 
You don't respond substantively to my posts, but you have several times called my loyalty as a fan into question. You'll know from the match day threads that whether or not I am using my season tickets (they are always used), I watch every game. We all have different lives and circumstances.  
I look forward to your customary abuse in return - it's ironic that you are so critical of social media 
 

Maybe he wants to play in the team! ?

We will miss his recruiting in a big way. No avoiding that. But not much else. 

You could count on the fingers of one hand the people who have real loyalty to their club.  Curtis might just be one ... would welcome his as player/co-manager 

If CK and Stretford had bought Preston, where do you think Rooney would be now ? 

If CK and Stretford had bought Preston, where do you think Rooney would be now ? 

Any idea why he has not resigned, why he has only requested to be ‘relieved of his duties’ ? 

Late last year he was on the radio on about how he works well with Rosenior - he said Liam does most of the defensive coaching and he does most of the attacking. I remember it specifically because he was talking after our third 0-0 draw in 4 games.

Great man manager, galvanised the whole club in the most trying of circumstances, and got us all united in a common goal. Thanks for that Wayne.
Little evidence he's a decent football manager though, nearly took us down from a position we shouldn't ever have been in, and then did take us down when at one point survival was well within our grasp.

Are Quantuma responsible for our new manager recruitment? Ted Lasso incoming?

Our hero’s name dont rhyme with blouse 
nor does it rhyme with flows
(he’s treated us to Mel’s last bows
He’s bloodied Ashley’s nose)
 
give him his dues,  we had the blues 
He steps in with fantastic news 
so please excuse the rave reviews
our hero’s name is Clowes
 
 
 
 

Our hero’s name dont rhyme with blouse 
nor does it rhyme with flows
(he’s treated us to Mel’s last bows
He’s bloodied Ashley’s nose)
 
give him his dues,  we had the blues 
He steps in with fantastic news 
so please excuse the rave reviews
our hero’s name is Clowes