Chris_Martin

when was that then?
 

when was that then?
 

I’m not saying we’ve been bad. His approach is clearly working to a large extent. My point was there’s not distinct style or continuity to how we play which creates unpredictability to our performances. I think the teams we’ve battered have mostly been teams who try and play a distinct way or passing way every game, who don’t try and counter us e.g. Bristol Rovers. Warnes style is reactionary to the opposition. 
 
i really don’t think it’s right to put the reason we lost yesterday all down to luck. Even Warne acknowledged we didn’t play well.
i also think you’re undervaluing the quality of our players. I don’t think any Northampton player would get in our squad except maybe Hoskins.
our difficulty signing players doesn’t affect how the manager sets the team up or his playing philosophy.

when was that then?
 

so no plan to change tactics then

really?
but for some injuries, with our squad we could put out a B team that could still get in play offs 
  
This doesn't even include players like Waghorn, Rooney, Washington, John-Jules, etc
Just because a player signs for a fee, doesn't automatically make them a better signing. A lot of our free signings have been amongst the best in the division these last 2 seasons. Mendez-Laing, Nelson, McGoldrick, etc. Not to mention all our academy players which also cost us nothing. 

when was that then?
 

Its because there are no foundations. Warne just takes every game as it comes and tries to ground out a result by any means. It is working most of the time, but I'm never truly that shocked whenever we lose a game to anyone. It feels like Warne picks one-off tactics for each opponent and hopes they work, but occasionally they don't or the opponent works them out in-game and we lose. There's no longevity or continuity to anything he's implementing.

I think Blackpool is a good opponent for Warne. We struggle when we're expected to impose ourselves. When the opposition sets up to react to what we're doing, like yesterday, Warne doesn't really know what to do.

if we kept the ball better and had some form of control, we wouldnt need to run all the time...

if we kept the ball better and had some form of control, we wouldnt need to run all the time...

Been told:
Barkhuizen and Gayle are out for 3 weeks
Forsyth’s season, and most likely Derby career, is over

So eg of our starting team today :
Cashin Nelson Forsyth 
Adams Smith
Hourihane 
Ward  Wilson 
Waghorn NML
 
And..injury-free we could send out a change 2nd XI of...
Niambe Bradley Rooney Elder 
Bird Thompson
CBT  Sibley 
Barks Collins Gayle 
 
With JJ, Fornah, Washington in neither team. 
For League 1 that is very good is it not?
 

if we kept the ball better and had some form of control, we wouldnt need to run all the time...

its not really the fact we lost, its the way we lost

its not really the fact we lost, its the way we lost

If it wasn't Chris Martin, and you just looked at the data, you'd say he was one of the best available out there in terms of free agents. If he's dropping down to L1 anyway, why not? We lack his sort of intelligence up top. He would have buried that chance Collins had early on. 

At this level I'd be okay with a youngster from the U21s, names forgotten. We won't look so turgid across the back line we'll be able to move the ball more quickly too.

its not really the fact we lost, its the way we lost

Well to be fair last week shouldn’t have gone to your heads because you were largely outplayed. If anything it should have been at best a point but fair enough you got the winner whilst Wanderers missed their chances. That should have sent warning signals to the players not celebrations. At this time of the season you can only expect the unexpected, just like today. There’s a lot of ups and downs to go yet as nerves start to kick in but certainly today’s unexpected defeat opens the door to second spot again. It’s going to be a very interesting month now and that 4 point cushion isn’t anything like the 7 it could have been but you still do have a cushion and it’s still in your own hands so the players just have to keep their nerve and deliver.

its not really the fact we lost, its the way we lost

I struggle to remember a time I’ve been so incensed by a performance or a result. I feel absolutely conned for finally allowing myself to believe in Derby County in their current form. I felt physically sick at the performance from the first 30 minutes that I just wanted to remove myself from watching the game. It was a disgusting display. A horrible game. I watched the Mansfield and Colchester game before hand and both of them were MILES ahead of what I had to endure in that first half. 
Warne fell upon a system with Gayle upfront and it all started to click, when you see the performance today it’s apparent that he knows what he wants to achieve but doesn’t have a plan on how to achieve it. Gayle was an easy solution at the time, I’m sure all things being well that he wouldn’t have signed him. Today really played out all my worst fears - I’m just glad that I was able to monetise us not winning promotion whilst we sat in our best situation. I have absolutely no faith in this team and less so in the manager to find a solution. 
I like him as a person, I even find his management and coaching not without merit, but why waste the best part of £10m on keeping an category one academy when you have such a short-sighted approach in the first team. It makes no sense to me. If we fail this season, there is absolutely not way he can remain as the Derby County manager for the next rebuild. Get him gone. 

At this stage of the season Warne should know how to get the best of the team. That doesn't rule out an off-day, but it should rule out off-days of this magnitude, and of this frequency. The biggest issue is that he got us reverting to hoofball, which hasn't worked whenever we've tried it, and strangely enough it didn't work this time, either. So we got him pre-match blathering on about the threat Northampton offered, and that we would have to defend with our lives, and clearly set up in fear of them, when with our comparative league positions and current form they should have been scares witless of us. Hourihane has told us that if they don't play the way Warne tells them then they get dropped. So today's tactics have to be on him. And when, as a bunch of players you know you can do better, and are being forced against what you know will work, is it any wonder that they looked, to be frank, hacked off at times?
And I brought the ref into it because he really was poor. If he had given the free kick for the blatant foul on Wilson, and the card that should have followed, Northampton wouldn't have broken away and scored, then our terrible defending would have mattered, or actually even taken place. So effectively he did cost us the game, but I would never make that claim, because it was our shocking defending that cost us the game. But the ref did nothing about the timewasting even before the goal, or Northampton stealing 5 - 10 yards and more for every throw and free kick, but was actually quite hot on Derby players for their throw-ins. And although Sibley deserved his yellow, maybe if the ref had given the free kick and yellow for the foul on Sibley immediately before he got his revenge, then that yellow card for Sibley wouldn't have happened. Or an offside on CBT after he had run through from the middle of a group of players before the ball was played.
But my main reason for pointing out the ref's abject performance, and why I didn't include the detail i have just given, was to highlight the fact that Derby County' performance was even worse.

It's because the league is crap and we have been slightly less crap.