rammieib

The structure of this deal suggests two things:

1) We wont see any signings of other players for fees so forget many of the links we’ve seen with younger promising players.

2) The Knight sale all disappeared to Poznan - we mostly knew this but it’s confirmed by this.

3) We’re still under a restriction of some type even though we all thought we were not.

2 minutes ago, dcfcreece1601 said:

If they were going to charge a feee on top wouldn't it be better to just buy him on a 1 year for example with an option for a second year?

And if he is earning £12-£14k a week he won’t give that up. This is his last decent pay check of which he has six months left.

Set a deadline, a final offer, move onto others.

I am more curious to know if he’s registered for tomorrow night.

I really hope we stick him straight into the team on Tuesday. I’m sure the team has a training session on Monday which he is part of and then will travel.

Either for Berks or Sibley.

0-0

26 minutes ago, ram59 said:

I don't think that we had much choice at the time, we were in desperate need of money and the offer was too good to refuse for a player which hadn't yet set the world alight.

He also showed nothing to suggest he would make it in men’s football.

You win some, you lose some.

So many of you getting into a panic just because there isn’t a statement on the DCFC website yet lol.

34 minutes ago, Ram@Lincoln said:

There would be a trickle down, although small, it'll be something. Swansea would make more money on their own sell on clauses with Plymouth, which would trickle down to our sell on clauses. 

Easy rough numbers pulled out of the air. We sell for a £1m plus 10% profit sell on. Swansea sell for £1.5m plus 10% profit sell on, we get an extra £50k. Plymouth sell for £15m, Swansea get £1.35m, we get an extra £135k. 

I guess it pays for a third or so of Blackett Taylor if the transfers go through. 

 

No there is no flow through.

Just now, rammieib said:

Except they are the same kind of goals that Collins is already scoring.

We just played 90 minutes football today - I can’t remember us once having a player make a run in behind and us trying to play that pass to that player (successful or not). It makes it easier for opposition defences if they know a striker isn’t running in behind us.

1 hour ago, RamFan13 said:

He got 18 goals 7 assists last season in league 1, he’ll scores goals. Isn’t that what we need???

Except they are the same kind of goals that Collins is already scoring.

Be disappointing if Smith is our striking option.

Been linked with quite a few from L1 or L2 who offer potential and we get a past it 32 year old who to me is the same as Collins.

Could see today we are desperate for that number 10. It’s not Sibs, it’s not Bird and it’s not John Joules. 

Wish we could sign a striker who wasn’t a big lump it to kind.

Been linked to a few but this is who we may end up with 😞

2 hours ago, Eoghan1884 said:

I don’t understand the point or reasoning behind not announcing a player when the deals been done the day before ?

Just guesses but:

1) He’s not been registered yet with the FA or EFL so can’t actually play yet.

2) They want to call a press conference which is best done on a working day.

3) Maximise news cycle which means Monday

Im sure there is a number of perfectly good reasons why we haven’t … we may never know them. Let’s be patient.

Lose 1-0

I wonder if we get any fee for him playing each game. (Like Bielik at the WC)

36 minutes ago, therealhantsram said:

Jolly nice of them, but they still shafted us at that price.

I still don’t know why they agreed to waive any amount of the fee. 

If Stephen Pearce had anything to do with that he should be applauded for saving us £1.3m

1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

We still have a set budget which we are sticking to. It also costs a lot to run a club our size. The Knight money will have gone towards reducing our losses.
Roughly speaking, minimum costs (excluding players) won't be far off:
Rates, utilities, insurance, police, etc.. - £5m
Non-playing staff - £4m
Stadium and training ground upkeep - £1.5m

With wages (plus tax and NI) around the £12m mark, those are total costs of £22.5m
I estimated our revenue for this season to be roughly £20m, plus the cash from Bielik and Knight means we'll be very close to breaking even, before we've spent anything on transfer fees.

Don’t think you’re far off with those numbers.

The longer he’s out, the better we are. 

1 hour ago, Ambitious said:

I think the fee is likely be shy of £600k but would make sense for Charlton to pack out the deal with future incentives, like a bank offering high interest rates.

Derby will probably throw £300-400k into the deal following promotion and not think twice, rather than pay that upfront now. If I was Charlton I’d be quite content with £300k upfront with a following £300-400k add ons for a player with one foot out the door. 

Out of interest, would you be happy with 300k upfront and 300k add one for Max Bird?

1 hour ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Sure he got another off the bench and it was a decent strike.  Could be wrong

Not league game from memory.

1 hour ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

He's shown he can finish.  I expect his goals are going to come as an impact sub rather than a starter however. He's a bit weak and will do more damage against tiring defenders who aren't chasing him about.  Need more starting firepower bringing in. 

1 league goal for is from memory? Port Vale away where from 16 yards out he managed to put it through GK legs. Intended or fluke?

Im far from convinced.

Not convinced on him - feel it’s a loan wasted. Hope I’m proved wrong.

18 minutes ago, S8TY said:

Hes not worth 500k would you pay 500k for something you could get for zilch in a few months ?

hes not a bad player but hes also not as good as you’re making out and 500k is way too much if we could get him for half that or maybe 300k then fair enough …he can be quite frustrating type of player and i think NML is better than him but he has pace and that will scare teams but i wouldn’t pay 500k for him 

1) If he gets you promoted then yes, absolutely. Championship income is circa 8 to 10 million more than L1 income.

2) If it guarantees that he joins us rather than risking him to someone else then yes.

3) I suspect his wages will be slightly less than if he signed on a free transfer. Say its 2-3k a week less, then that's 100 to 150k a year less, which over a three year contract is his transferr fee.

This really is a no brainer for me.

Win 4-1

Collins

1 hour ago, IlsonDerby said:

Got 4 goals from midfield for a team in absolute crisis? 1 goal per 7 matches for that s**** is nothing to be sniffed at. 
 

Also have to look at it that there’s a big chance we lose bird either now or in summer - will Hourihane still be here after summer? I’m not so sure. Same with regards to Smith. 
 

That’d leave us with Fornah and Thompson? Add Savage to them and a more senior player on a free in summer and you’ve got some decent options. You’ve got youth and legs. 
 

Id be very much for us making transfers that seem cheap but have potential for the players to grow with us. 
 

people always used to say they want us to be like Brentford well Brentford never signed players in their prime. They signed good players from underperforming teams based on their chairman’s model and developed them before selling them on for a fortune. 

If our CM options next season regardless of division are Fornah, Thompson, Savage and one other.... God help us stay in L1, let alone the Champ.