Steve Buckley’s Dog

Rick and his mate Trevor are busy again. 

I am getting some bizarre replies from Parry today. Can anyone fathom this:
‘If we’d changed the rule to say clubs don’t have to use straight line amortisation I could understand the confusion but nothing has changed.’
But there wasn’t a rule to say they had to! Surely something has changed - it’s a new rule!

I am getting some bizarre replies from Parry today. Can anyone fathom this:
‘If we’d changed the rule to say clubs don’t have to use straight line amortisation I could understand the confusion but nothing has changed.’
But there wasn’t a rule to say they had to! Surely something has changed - it’s a new rule!

All clubs didn’t write off losses by transferring debt to a haulage company, except one. 
Did Rick miss that bit out of his reply? 

All clubs didn’t write off losses by transferring debt to a haulage company, except one. 
Did Rick miss that bit out of his reply? 

All clubs didn’t write off losses by transferring debt to a haulage company, except one. 
Did Rick miss that bit out of his reply? 

The anger is good. We all need an outlet for anger and being at the match, cheering the Rams on from start to finish is what has personally kept me sane and given me hope.
The South Stand, South West Corner and the East Stand from half way to the away fans is sold out for Peterborough. I suspect this may well be the case for the rest of the season. People want to be part of the unbelievable support for Rooney and this bunch of honest, brave, and united bunch of lads giving their all for the cause.
Harness this anger, use it to roar the players on, give the EFL every bit of abuse they deserve but mainly, get behind every single player with everything you've got, every game.
COYR

So, had another response from the EFL, asked when they would be charging Middlesbrough with bringing the game into disrepute with regard to their unfounded allegations of another member club 'systematically cheating'. 
The EFL response:-
Generally speaking, if any Club wishes to bring a matter to the attention of the EFL in relation to any of our regulations then they can do so.
So it appears that you can do whatever you want as long as another club does not report you?
I have responded asking why they need someone else to point it out to them, when the statement was released into the public domain.

Yes but that was Stephen Pearce, the accountant who seemingly can’t add up. 
Interestingly, Gibson’s open letter from about a couple of weeks ago seemed to have a lot of claims of information about Derby’s administration process. If true, and it is an if, where did this knowledge come from do you think?
I have an email from Parry in reply to one of my own in which he pretty much admits that the EFL have been leaking information to the press. Not a great leap to suggest that they leak it to one of their board members in the next room who apparently takes no part is it. 

I think Shinnie would have made a big difference yesterday. Sadly we had to sell him for 50p due to spurious claims from parasite clubs being made against us. Sadly the one man who could have sorted Crooks was Mike Dean but he didn’t seem to think a forearm smash and over the top tackle were worthy of being disciplined. He was too busy getting in our players’ way and smiling. 

Yes but that was Stephen Pearce, the accountant who seemingly can’t add up. 
Interestingly, Gibson’s open letter from about a couple of weeks ago seemed to have a lot of claims of information about Derby’s administration process. If true, and it is an if, where did this knowledge come from do you think?
I have an email from Parry in reply to one of my own in which he pretty much admits that the EFL have been leaking information to the press. Not a great leap to suggest that they leak it to one of their board members in the next room who apparently takes no part is it. 

I don’t want us to do this. However when Boro fail FFP due to their paying of high wages they can’t afford this season, or systematic cheating as I believe it is known, then, why not. I wonder who else would feel a claim might be worthwhile if Boro pip them to the play offs. Fortunately I am sure the EFL will fix it so Boro remain within the rules. Having a representative on the board being fed information certainly helps on that front. 

I don’t want us to do this. However when Boro fail FFP due to their paying of high wages they can’t afford this season, or systematic cheating as I believe it is known, then, why not. I wonder who else would feel a claim might be worthwhile if Boro pip them to the play offs. Fortunately I am sure the EFL will fix it so Boro remain within the rules. Having a representative on the board being fed information certainly helps on that front. 

Yes but that was Stephen Pearce, the accountant who seemingly can’t add up. 
Interestingly, Gibson’s open letter from about a couple of weeks ago seemed to have a lot of claims of information about Derby’s administration process. If true, and it is an if, where did this knowledge come from do you think?
I have an email from Parry in reply to one of my own in which he pretty much admits that the EFL have been leaking information to the press. Not a great leap to suggest that they leak it to one of their board members in the next room who apparently takes no part is it. 

I don’t want us to do this. However when Boro fail FFP due to their paying of high wages they can’t afford this season, or systematic cheating as I believe it is known, then, why not. I wonder who else would feel a claim might be worthwhile if Boro pip them to the play offs. Fortunately I am sure the EFL will fix it so Boro remain within the rules. Having a representative on the board being fed information certainly helps on that front. 

I don’t want us to do this. However when Boro fail FFP due to their paying of high wages they can’t afford this season, or systematic cheating as I believe it is known, then, why not. I wonder who else would feel a claim might be worthwhile if Boro pip them to the play offs. Fortunately I am sure the EFL will fix it so Boro remain within the rules. Having a representative on the board being fed information certainly helps on that front. 

I think Shinnie would have made a big difference yesterday. Sadly we had to sell him for 50p due to spurious claims from parasite clubs being made against us. Sadly the one man who could have sorted Crooks was Mike Dean but he didn’t seem to think a forearm smash and over the top tackle were worthy of being disciplined. He was too busy getting in our players’ way and smiling. 

I don’t want us to do this. However when Boro fail FFP due to their paying of high wages they can’t afford this season, or systematic cheating as I believe it is known, then, why not. I wonder who else would feel a claim might be worthwhile if Boro pip them to the play offs. Fortunately I am sure the EFL will fix it so Boro remain within the rules. Having a representative on the board being fed information certainly helps on that front. 

I don’t want us to do this. However when Boro fail FFP due to their paying of high wages they can’t afford this season, or systematic cheating as I believe it is known, then, why not. I wonder who else would feel a claim might be worthwhile if Boro pip them to the play offs. Fortunately I am sure the EFL will fix it so Boro remain within the rules. Having a representative on the board being fed information certainly helps on that front. 

We have been incredibly unlucky to be 3-1 down but really, what is Mike Dean doing? That is a blatant red card and blocking Bielik off and then allowing them to continue is a disgraceful decision.
We don’t get much luck do we. Spawny goals and the third knocked in by a player who shouldn’t be on the pitch. duck the EFL

We have been incredibly unlucky to be 3-1 down but really, what is Mike Dean doing? That is a blatant red card and blocking Bielik off and then allowing them to continue is a disgraceful decision.
We don’t get much luck do we. Spawny goals and the third knocked in by a player who shouldn’t be on the pitch. duck the EFL

@BoroWill- the reason your owner is seen as the villain of the piece is because he is.  Not because of his views of Mel Morris and not because of his previous views and comments of our club's profligate spending - you will find many/most Rams fans (no doubt some late to the party) who agree with him on both counts - but because he is and has been for many months deliberately making it impossible for us to move to new ownership without us slugging him a considerable amount of money (anything between £7m and £45m) for a perceived competitive gain, when even your own fans believe that your failure to gain a play off place that season was largely down to Pulis and a sporting/player/results failure on your part.
We have been roundly punished by the EFL's processes for our financial splurge; we have spent the vast majority of the last 3/4 seasons under a transfer embargo; we've had 9 players leave this transfer window alone, most against their will; we're down to the bare bones from a squad perspective; we're likely to get relegated despite the fantastic effort that the players are putting in to avoid that happening.  Is not all that and more, punishment enough?
Yet, for your owner, this is personal.  He doesn't care that the club, our club, is suffering, that good people are out of work, that a fan base is suffering. The proof of that is that he is continuing with a claim that is at its very, very best, purely speculative.  If he relaxed his claim we could, probably, get new owners in place, sort out creditors, be relegated and under EFL control for two more years but at least move on.  He won't let us because he doesn't like Mel Morris and wants to see Mel Morris suffer. And that is it pure and simple, and that is why he is, whatever your protestations to the contrary, the villain of this piece.  It's time for him to show some leadership, move on and concentrate on his own club.

Sorry to start a new thread but I feel very strongly about this. The two parasitic clubs should not get a penny off us. They should be taken to the high court and taken apart and if possible forced to pay damages.
Now, I have no faith in our administrators whatsoever to actually do this. There doesn’t seem to be an appetite from anyone to actually save our football club and see that justice is done.
I would  be more than willing to pay a sum to go towards Nick De Marco or suitable friend to take this to court on the clubs behalf. If we lose football is dead anyway. If we win we seek costs and get our money back or donate it to local charities if that isn’t possible. 
This needs actioning now. This needs someone - @RamsfanJim or BAWT to talk to the administrators tomorrow at the latest to clarify what they are going to do and if they aren’t willing to fight tell them we are.
I have had enough of this. Can someone who has contacts please contact the relevant people and get the wheels in motion. This parasitical, vindictive vendetta should not be allowed to stand.
 I am sure plenty on here will agree with me. 
#fighttotheend
 
 

I’m afraid Boro and Wycombe will be advised by their lawyers not to do this on the legal basis that their claims are against an organisation not an individual. I think Mortis probably knows this. However it will be about perception then and the pressure of the MPs could  prove decisive. Chicken noises next week I think. 

I still think the EFL are digging themselves into a deeper and deeper hole here, using a spade that Boro have forced them to use while they oversee the EFL shovelling away.
In the League Arbitration Panel's ruling of 22nd October 2020, it is stated that:
On 6 September 2019 MFC commenced arbitration proceedings against EFL contending that EFL had failed to take timely disciplinary action against DCFC. On 29 November 2019 MFC and EFL agreed that this arbitration would be stayed and EFL would commence disciplinary proceedings against DCFC.
The key word here for me is 'stayed'. I did discuss this with a lawyer friend today and it does have the meaning that it implies of paused rather than stopped or terminated.
Surely if Boro initially wanted to commence proceedings directly against the EFL for not taking action against Derby, and the EFL only managed to convince Boro not to do so by saying they would commence disciplinary proceedings against Derby themselves, then the action by Boro against the EFL would not be stayed but stopped. It implies that Boro will hold the threat over the EFL that they will restart action against them if the EFL doesn't pursue Derby to their liking.
This point is also made by Mel Morris' letter today in which he says 'The root of this is that they are also under attack from Boro who basically said you pursue Derby at all costs, or we will continue with our action to pursue the EFL.'
This isn't just MM ranting or paranoia of the EFL's stance against Derby, it is spelled out in this ruling on the EFL website.
How possibly can Derby expect a fair hearing in any of the matters since the start of all this with the EFL actions clearly being influenced by the threat of a claim against them if things don't go Boro's way?