Ilkestonian

I don't want to...or need to. It adds nothing to my enjoyment or the end result.
Plus there are too many unknowns. You score an early offside goal in a match, you then choose to sit deep, soak up pressure and you give up a few chances but ultimately you win. The stats are totally driven by what happened in that initial incident.
If the goal had been disallowed,  the whole game would have been played in a totally different way. So all the stats are pretty meaningless to me.
You disagree...but I don't see the point or merit in your view anyway as its a lot of thinking about stuff that is impossible to know anyway.

I think you are on to something there. 

You clearly do a lot of work on stats in football. I hope it brings you joy and wealth.
I personally couldn't give less of a monkey's about average discrepancy to the chances/goal average, xG, or any of it.
I watch football for fun, for the joy of that moment when the ball hits the net, the intake of breath as a defender is beaten. The satisfaction of winning a game. The shared pleasure of a successful season. 
I don't understand what you are saying, why you are saying it, or what joy you get from following football. 
Maybe if you diluted your intensely dry and rather hectoring stats lessons with a post or two about the actual football, or the Rams generally, folks would treat you with less disdain. 

Here are my stats that I also hope you trust, as I too have worked hard on them.
Teams that accumulate more points than 22 other sides in their division over the period of 46 games get promotion in the English football pyramid 100% of the time.*
 
*Stats based on a sample of over 120 years of competitive football where sides are ranked based on points-based performance.

I fcuking give up...hello is that the Samaritans 

Are you being held captive, tap once for yes.

We came out of admin with 6 rostered senior pros and just missed out off the back a non-existent pre-season, with a cobbled together team. That team is now challenging for the autos in our second season since facing liquidation, all achieved while under soft-embargo and an enforced business plan too.
You can sneer all you like, but some folk are actually proud of how this club has turned things around, a notion you clearly find hilarious.

'Luck' is not the number of goals and wins, it's whether the goals and wins were proportionate to what happened. In fact the luckier we got the bigger our gd and number of wins would be.
Fallacy of the single cause - high gd and number of wins means we were good therefore these were only a result of us being good and luck was not involved.

Just got home. Story of our season tbh. Didn't play that well but somehow still came out with the three points and the title.
 
Appreciate the kind posts from the posters here. Bolton drew again so hopefully you guys will be joining us next season. You deserve it. 

Thank you for the gracious comments.  I'm a bit *ahem* tired and emotional - it's been a relatively long wait for us to get back in to the second tier.  I'm rooting for you to get over the line and other results this evening appear to have been in your favour.  Good luck and raising a glass to B4.

First promotion for 17 years. First automatic promotion for nearly 30 years. Let’s counter your argument and say you think that finishing 3rd, playing good football but failing where it really matters is an achievement?
The arrogant attitude that anything less than running away with the title with triple figure points is a failure is why big clubs like Sunderland, Ipswich, Notts Forest etc got stuck down here for longer.
Less than two years ago we had about 6 players, no academy, no manager and had to play pre-season in temporary shirts because we didn’t even have kits. We were also put under restrictions, which still haven’t run out yet. So yes, I think getting automatic promotion in this timeframe is an achievement. A very good one, actually.

Its utterly ridiculous. 
We've been crying out for stability for years, the moment we start actually doing well and potentially finishing in the automatic promotion positions for the first time in god knows how long, some fans are wanting PW sacked and are happy to take a punt on whoever - could be better, could be worse - may come in next.
If it was them lot up the road, I'd be falling over laughing.

In place of who though? To finish in the top 2 we’d have needed 22 more points at least, that’s a big, big swing for another manager to achieve. And it was with a squad assembled by somebody else. You’ve said before “I hate this team”, so clearly the players didn’t have what it took any way?
I’m not Warne’s number 1 fan, I’m not sold that he is the right long term option for us and I’d have been very happy to see him sacked after Stevenage away. But he’s gone on to make us dogged, resilient and efficient.
I can accept people may dislike his playing style or his personality, whatever, but I can’t see how anybody could argue that he’s not done an excellent job - providing we finish the job - given the circumstances.
He’s taken a side who was pieced together under restrictions by a different manager, straight out of administration, and built an ethos and an atmosphere that a lot have clearly bought into. I really don’t think it matters how big a side we are or how many fans we have, to be in this position 20 months after nearly ceasing to exist is a wonderful achievement.
Whether he finishes next season as our manager or not will remain to be seen, but he absolutely deserves the opportunity to take us into the Championship.

We also won a Division 1 title with one of the lowest ever points total (2 points for win), and did you moan that season that the league was dreadful?

if the records were set in the champ,i'd be with you all the way,but they havent,they have been set in a dreadful quality league

Perhaps he means club record points and record equaling away wins? We certainly don't want any more of that 🐏

But you think the gamble of paying off Warne and his backroom staff (with w years left on their contract) rather than using them funds to let Warne strengthen our squad is a good idea?
By Warne Ball do you mean lots of goals scored and not many conceded?

I think they like the novelty - and the fact it churns things up to have discussions about.  We could have Klopp, lose a game, and the same remarks would be made.  Or:
 
"he's only here for the money"
"he might understand Premier League tactics but he doesn't get the Championship"
"his standards are too high - and they don't want to play for him"
"he is a high budget manager that got 'lucky' with the players".  Without Salah he is a busted flush"
"I don't like his sense of humour".
"he is signing players the top top clubs don't want.  He should go after world class players, pay them peanuts and offer no transfer fee because we are Derby - don't they realise how lucky they are?"
 

Incredible really, here we are on the cusp of bagging promotion with club record points and still there are "Fans" who are more interested in agitating for a change in manager. I think Lionel had the right idea some years ago telling such people what they could do. Take a trip down the A52 if I recall. Top chap Lionel and we all owe a debt to him. I remember when he appointed Jim Smith and many also moaned.
Fingers crossed for crossing the line and I'm hoping Warne will do a good job developing the squad and establishing us as a middle third upwardly looking championship team next season, which is what he has been given the target to do by the board.
I'm very thankful we have an astute owner, who is putting the club on a stable footing, and not sacking managers all the time.

How on earth do you score more than you should have?

The opposite has been the case and by a long way, Wycombe was the 8th game we've scored less than we should have and we've scored more in 19(!)
Creativity is the area we've lacked compared to others -maybe down to conservative tactics not quality- rather than taking the chances.

I’m sick of this debate so once again, I’ll bow out, safe in the knowledge that I’m personally enjoying the team being second in the league, potentially two games away from promotion, record points total for a season, equalled our record away wins and could still beat it, best goal difference in the league as it stands, equal highest number of wins in the league as it stands, loads of set piece goals….theres plenty I’m enjoying and will continue to do so.
You do you friend. 

Ok, will do