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Yesterday was a desperately poor result but the way I see it is that we’d rather be seeing those results now than in May. It’s something we can recover from.
We haven’t lost ground on Plymouth and Wycombe haven’t gained ground on us. We are very much where we deserve to be and likely to end up being - in the playoffs. Whether we finish 3rd or 6th is immaterial.
All teams have games where every slip, trip, bobble, wobble, bounce and deflection goes in the opposition’s favour and every mistake gets punished. It was just one particularly bad day at the office. We have had four of those in 23 league games under Warne, so there’s no need to panic.
It’s all very well saying Warne needs to correct things or learn from defeats, but what more can he really do?
We have to remember that Warne is working with what he’s got - a very small squad with good quality but one that is having to rely on players playing out of position and young players to fill gaps to function even slightly.
There is no use in getting worked up and there is no use coming down like a hammer on Warne and the team.
I am sure Warne would love a colossus in midfield and I am sure Warne would love to rest 5-6 players but he doesn’t have that luxury. He is doing his best to troubleshoot from within.
We have 14 games to go and 9-10 of them look very winnable. The scaremongering after two rare defeats seems extreme.
Six points at PP this week and we can quickly move on from this.

The one crumb of comfort from yesterday (yes I know I'm clutching at straws) is that whilst Barnsley were worthy of their win and we can have any complaints, despite the score line I don't think Barnsley were a great deal better than us. We did create some decent chances and we effectively gifted them two of the goals.
It was a bad day at the office, especially defensively, that hopefully won't happen again. 

The ref was poor yesterday - join a very long queue - but there's a real problem with communication between referees and us the paying customer that football generally hasn't tackled.  VAR at least (now) allows communication on screens on the ground, but below the EPL we're treated as mushrooms.
Yesterday on the first goal, the ref originally gave the goal, then was persuaded to talk to the lino who hadn't signalled anything, nor moved back towards the half way line as you might expect if the goal was to stand. Whether the ref was persuaded by earpiece or the players complaining who knows? After some discussion (and surrounded by players from both sides no doubt all adding their views) the lino then clearly signalled offside.  Cheers from us.  Within 5 seconds the ref then points to the half way line - goal awarded.  Boos from us.
Two possibilities.  The lino gave a wrong signal by mistake.  More than likely given their general competence, but odd.  Or the ref/lino compilation were overruled via earpiece by the 4th official who had seen a replay on a monitor by the touchline. 
If the latter, why don't we fans (all fans from all teams) know this is a possibility/is happening? What are the rules around it - is it to be used in 'big' incidents only - goals/sendings off? How accurate is it - does it draw lines across the pitch, for example?  Does every club have the facility for the 4th official - Warne has referred to a monitor near their dugout? And why isn't there communication in the ground?Etc.
And, if there was no 4th official communication, why did the lino clearly signal offside?
The standard of referees in football is at an all time (certainly my 60 years) low, at a time when the standards of players are at an all time high in terms of fitness and speed.  The communication between the sport generally and the fan has never been particularly good in reality but in the use of technology it is little short of appalling - Cricket, Rugbies, tennis, as three examples, do that so, so much better.
 

Wembley is a sea of Black n White. Could be a good omen B4. And all the Geordies are standing.

Terrible isnt it - I'm sure though like most working women she probably still does all of that when she gets home ?

Maybe it’s time to rest your foot properly and give yourself time to heal mate.  The football will take care of itself and you can watch online.
When you’re all sorted you can start to enjoy the matches again pain free.
Watching in agony is what we all do tbh, but not with a broken toe too. Rest up.

I can't argue with the majority of your post, you do mention a couple of times the phrase not being ready for promotion.
Who decides whether a team is ready or not? Sometimes you have to embrace the opportunities that come your way and not turn round and say well we didn't make a proper fist of things as we weren't ready. That's just defeatism and an excuse.
We failed abysmally in our 11 point season not because we weren't ready it was because our recruitment in the summer couldn't have been any worse if we tried. 
Compare and contrast Forest this season whom lost half their promotion team whom were on loan the previous season.
Take the piss out of their transfer dealings or not they've now by a scattergun approach got themselves into a position where they have a very good chance of staying up this season never mind plumbing a record low points seasons.
That's not down to them not being ready that's because theyve exploited the opportunity they were given. We didn't. We pissed the whole thing up the wall. But don't say we weren't ready. 

Hello.
I read on the Barnsley forum, that there's a thread on a Derby site (I'm assuming it must mean here, but I can't see it), about the behaviour of the police, last night.
I was on a train to Sheffield after the game, and saw (mainly Derby) fans be treated/spoken to, in what I thought was an appalling way.
The Derby fans I was around, were loud, and some had cans of whatever, but they weren't doing anything wrong. Not aggressive, not swearing, nothing that would merit the police pushing them, until one was shoved into me, and fell over.
I managed to film some bits, and I know that British Transport Police Officer Smith, who normally works out of Leeds, and has been with the police since 1981, according to him, was the main source of the Derby fans' anger.
If the bits I filmed might be of any use, let me know if someone wants them. I don't know if there's anything that can be done, really, but I was shocked at what I saw.
Thanks,
A Barnsley fan.

Whole team's different with Bird in it. Every single player. They can make riskier runs, can expect a pass into feet if they're a forward, or a ball out wide for full backs and wingers. These players can play their game without having to think.
He doesn't do Hollywood passes that often, but he pulls off those slightly-more-difficult than average passes relentlessly, every time. Very few CMs at this level can do it. It's the marginal gain that separates us from the rest of the league and puts us up there with the best.
That's where the calm comes from with Bird. Having a player like that in the spine of your team makes everything run like clockwork.

We often do use a single name but not their given first name!

It was probably one of the least "4-1" games I've seen. I don't remember many Barnsley chances created through their own football, but they were very effective with their high press. We dealt with that badly, and most of their chances came from us failing to clear our lines effectively. By contrast, we created allot of chances, two of which were tap-ins that we fluffed, and some of their defending was desperate in the second half, with several professional fouls (including the rugby tackle on NML) and almost Lincolnesque levels of timewasting (4 minutes of added time at the end - wtf?) Their manager will be delighted that they got away with it, in part due to the referee's performance. 
The most annoying aspect of the loss is that with even a modicum of the defensive composure we've shown under Warne, and a greater determination to finish those chances, we might even have won that. 
I'm sure Warne will be stressing to them how that game could have gone so differently. 

I had a lie down early on.
But I was gobsmacked and just looking on and thinking come on lads this is not you.
Why isn't jake rooney not getting a look in at the moment.

Just matter of performance that upset me today.
If we played well and still loss fair enough but today lads just not looked brothered and that what upset me today.

I was in the home end when that announement was made, i was baffled as i hadnt heard any offensive chanting or shouts from anyone that i would say was sexist or racist, but there were a few stewards looking up into the stand definitely looking for someone, ....not sure if "scabs" or "scabbers" would be deemed offensive or discriminity there was plenty of that but it  certainly didnt bother me
I was walking past Derby fans at the train station with my Barnsley supporting cousin and our kids, found it quite funny he kept bending down picking up coins that i realised were being thrown at us, and he says to me in his thick yorkie accent "im making a fortune ere lad"
As for the game itself, terrible from us, Barnsley were better all over, hate to say it but although the numbers looked good the noise levels from Derby fans wasnt the best today, i was expecting it to be better, but i enjoyed ma day out, took my lad bowling and enjoyed a quality sit down Indian after the game, couldnt go on the lash as my lads only 13 but got the impression Barnsley would be a cracking night out, so planning to get over again soon, and meet up with relatives i havent seen for too long ?

Not read everything in here but here's my take on today from the stands.
We were too predictable in possession,  looking for the ball down the channel or big diagonal pass, which clearly they were prepared for, the biggest problem was we had no midfield 1st half, so no other options out of defence,  missing Bird.
They were stronger, quicker, more energetic and looked the better team from the start, we were way too passive,  especially in the absent midfield,  hence the defence got overrun at times. The 3rd goal a perfect example, it started from our throw at the half way line, lost the ball too easily and barely an attempt at a challenge. 
As for the offside goal, my opinion which I said to those around me at the time, I thought he was in an offside position,  but the ball came to him from an attempt to clear which came back off a Derby player (Knight?) it was shambolic defending caused by their intensity, it was indecisiveness by the lino, presume he spoke to ref on the earpiece and that's why there was so much confusion and the ref correctly spoke to the lino and came to that conclusion that the ball got to Cole via a Derby touch, therefore not offside. 
All in all, I don't think we've played well, apart from after Morecombe gave up at 45 mins, for weeks, we look tired, bereft of ideas and lacking all over the pitch, which against 2 good teams away from home has been exposed.
But yesterday was a new level of poor, summarised by the 4th goal imo.
On to Tuesday and go again,  put this to bed and move on, we are lucky to be in this position after the last 18 months, still in the driving seat to reach the PO's. Then let's hope we have a plan to deal with the better teams and the small squad we have aren't too jaded. 

Warne didn't learn the lessons from Wycombe.
You have to battle them for 60 mins then try and outplay them.
As bad as we played, we still could have won that. We have to hold on to that, as when we get back in the groove we have the players to go on another run.
 

Well that was quite shocking. The performance lacked conviction, solidity, and we were all over the place. On the first goal, at first, it looked offside but on the replays, it looks like Forsyth is playing the guy on. Regardless of that, the second, third and fourth goals were all unforgivable. They resulted from sloppy play, an unwillingness to track runners and terrible backline positioning. We lacked conviction in the final third and never really looked like getting back into it despite having the ball. 
It's something Warne needs to sort out quickly. Cashin and Forsyth as a pairing do not work away from home when playing like this. Cashin gets too tight to his man and Forsyth doesn't have the legs to help him out when he is beaten. At home, this is less of an issue as teams are less adventurous, but away from home when teams want to get at us we look so vulnerable. The result is a line that is out of shape and a lb who is by nature a lw and thus does not cover. In essence, the defence is an absolute mess. The midfield needs to be quicker in the transition and the front line needs to make more runs and penetrate more in the final third. 

Atm I'm not convinced that even if we make the playoffs would we win them. The away form is such that the home form may not be enough to carry us through. Safe to say I'm a frustrated ram tonight

Finally back home ,had my tea and got beers on the go, so here we go:
Injustice and capitulation are bitter pills to take.  We were looking forward to a great day out, but the dark clouds floated in while queuing for a pie and a pint inside the ground. Only there wasn't a queue, just a mass of bodies all trying to push everybody out of their way. I challenged one guy who kept on pushing his shoulder in front of mine, because he started a good 5 minutes after I had already got there. To which he said he was with a guy in front of us. Not when my and my son and daughter arrived, but I backed off and said I wasn't going to get into a fight over it. He then tried to play the race card, saying I had challenged him because he was black! I've been there, and it doesn't work. So my daughter played the health card - she has an over-active pancreas and was heading for a hypo. He still stood his ground. so I played the health card with a guy in front of us who had spent the last 15 minutes taking selfies of the crowd behind us, while belting my daughter in her face with his elbow. He graciously let us through, so I said "thanks for nothing" to the wannabe racist who still hadn't been served. Hah!!!
And to the match: I said to my son after about 5 minutes that Barnsley were looking very physical, so we'll get nothing out of this ref". How on earth would I know something like that? We were a bit shaky at the start, handing Barnsley a coupe of easy openings all by ourselves, but we gradually began to get ourselves into the match, with a couple of good chances. Then the first goal. Oh dear. Our defending was poor,  but the scorer was surely offside. The lino kept his flag down because they only seem to make a decision when the ref, from 20 - 30 yards away tell them what they were supposed to have seen. WE surrounded him, and the ref came over, followed by the lino signalling offside, to great cheers from the Rams fans, only for Barnsley players to start yelling at him, and then he flagged for a goal. How can he change his mind 3 times? And how can the ref over-rule him from 20 yards behind the play? Apparently it all hinged on whether or not the Barnsley player touched the ball on its way in. "No, I never touched it ref, honest". "No, really honest, ref" said the striker. So the ref said it must have been ok, only for the offside guy to be credited with the goal. So it was offside.
That rattled us, and our passing started to fall away, with the second goal only being a matter of time, But in between the goals were some murderous fouls by Barnsely, coupled with some less blatant shoves and pushes, with all of them going totally unpunished. One breakaway Knight was battered such that he was thrown about 3 or 4 feet up in the air. The t***, oh er sorry, the ref motioned the advantage, but the attack fizzled out, but not before Knight was clattered a second time. Nothing given, neither was play brought back because the advantage didn't work out, neither were either of the assaults given yellow cards. And so it went on. Sadly we let these events go to our heads. Maybe it was because for the second time in three matches there was an offside goal against us. 
And we let the match official's performance get to us. No surprise that they were awful, but we should be used to it by now, as its been going on for 4 years now. So when two Barnsley players took Wildsmith out after a corner, the ref gave them a throw, with nothing done about the goalkeeper getting mugged. Absolutely shameful. There were tons more examples, with many already mentioned in this thread.
What did make a difference was the way Barnsley challenged for everything, and pressed us constantly. They can play a bit, so why do they need to be so dirty? In the end our downfall was letting the thugging get to us, and the licence to do so being given them by the ref. We have toughened up considerably this season, but we were well short of what was required. 
Some of it was the pressing by Barnsley, but much of it was the fact that we kept playing a long ball game. We played them off the park at home only a few weeks ago, so why didn't we get the ball down and play it again? Warne was critical about our decision making, and that we weren't quick enough in our play, but it looked very much like Warne's preference of "get it out wide, or play it into the channels". And until Dobbin and Skillet came on, it was all we did. I thought we had learned our lesson about playing teams at their own game against Wycombe because we aren't Wycombe. Well My Warne, we aren't Barnsley either. We are Derby, so we ought to be playing like Derby, not Barnsley or Wycombe.
It's only one match, and we are till in touch with the top two, just about, but we have had three "only one match" events now, and that is quite enough. WE have thrown away a chance to close the gap on 2nd place, but we are no further away from it than we were at the start of play. Realistically we are going for the play-offs, which could quite conceivably be against Wycombe or Barnsley. If so, I hope a ref turns up, otherwise we are definitely screwed.
Come on Derby - we can do this!

Away from home, the way we play just doesnt suit McGoldrick & Sibley always gets targetted. Dont mind Sibley so much at left back when we play at home when he more tike & space but away from home he is an easy target for the opposition. 
With McGoldrick, his game doesnt suit being a target man, he is better dropping into the space. I know he scored today but other than that he was poor, was very poor in possession. I get Collins isnt everyones cup of tea but away from home he suits us better, he can hold up abit better, he occupies their centre backs more and can help with the press.

How many of you remember coming away from Tranmere after the 5-1 trashing in the nineties. It was a long drive back over the snake to Sheffield. We had no idea that we would start a 20 game unbeaten run the following game ending up with promotion that season.
Apart from that are we not punching above our weight at the moment in the division? How many other clubs are restricted to free transfers and loans?
Calm yourselves.  We are lucky to still have a club to support.

0 as he liked getting stuck in.

Look...
Our team is alive to fight another day.
We'll win on Tuesday... probably under a sea of black and white.
We'll end up getting promoted... one way or another.
Today was just a blip.
Stop being so negative... and more specifically, stop posting angry face emojis to those who politely tell you to stay positive, and are trying to be nice to you.
That's double standards, that... and it doesn't suit you one bit!  
 
Up The Rams, eh?  ? 
 
EDIT:
Ignore that last bit... I see you apologised whilst I was posting!  ?