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The part you seem unable to accept is that no one has ever said that the vaccine stops people getting the virus, or passing it on. That has never been the aim. It has always been aimed at training the immune system to attack and destroy the virus more easily and thus 1) decrease the number of severe cases/death and 2) lessen the viral load being shed by those infected
I understand what you're saying perfectly but it's completely irrelevant to my point, and ends with yet more dumbing down of the facts to "what's the point if it doesn't stop you catching or giving it" 
"What's the point in speed limits, seat belts and airbags if they don't stop you being in a car crash?"

Anyone else totally and utterly fed-up to the back teeth with this yet?

You are surprised at me, but not totally flabbergasted by @angieram’s reply. There you were sticking up for her kind, and she dismissed you with a sweep of her duster, or any other kitchen implement she was holding whilst multi-tasking on this forum. You must be very woke for the IOW, as whenever I have been there they all seem to be about 50 years behind the mainland. I bet Stan Boardman is still regularly booked at Shanklin Theatre trying out his new ‘Germans’ routine. You’ve got to laugh Phil, you really have ?

But aren’t you still losing 1 million a month, surely (and it’s not just Derby) out goings have to be less than incomings.?
This is where the whole “allowed to lose £39million over three years “ falls down, teams actually work to that, Why? Surely they should be working at at least breaking even. It only takes a minor blip to screw it up and put teams over.
wasn’t it Risdale who included qualifying for the champions league every year in Leeds Budget?
It has taken QPR 7 years to get anywhere near sustainability and we are still losing money each month, sooner or later players and more importantly agents are going to have to come to terms with receiving less money or half the league will end up in the position you are currently at.
 
 

Please god let us beat boro on Saturday , this team and Rooney deserve to stay up and write they’re names in derby history, tonight like so many games this season was just wow 

Please god let us beat boro on Saturday , this team and Rooney deserve to stay up and write they’re names in derby history, tonight like so many games this season was just wow 

Please god let us beat boro on Saturday , this team and Rooney deserve to stay up and write they’re names in derby history, tonight like so many games this season was just wow 

Please god let us beat boro on Saturday , this team and Rooney deserve to stay up and write they’re names in derby history, tonight like so many games this season was just wow 

Please god let us beat boro on Saturday , this team and Rooney deserve to stay up and write they’re names in derby history, tonight like so many games this season was just wow 

Please god let us beat boro on Saturday , this team and Rooney deserve to stay up and write they’re names in derby history, tonight like so many games this season was just wow 

C'mon Mike, buy our great club!

What Gibson did was not explicitly against the rules at the time, but was obviously against the spirit of the rules. The EFL subsequently closed the loophole by adjusting their rules. What Morris did was not explicitly against the rules at the time, but was obviously against the spirit of the rules. The EFL retroactively changed the rules (because of pressure from Gibson) and charged us, which led to where we are now. Spot the difference?

Football is in a mess , Morris clearly tried to sail as close to the wind as he could re breaking / bending rules to gain advantage,no argument there the man’s a disgrace for what he’s done to OUR club , but let’s be right here Gibson himself has sailed very close to the wind with debt moving and other stuff , countless other clubs have been  and are doing it too ,
the thing is any right thinking REAL football fan at this point says STOP , if this was Morris or any other owner of Derby perusing boro or any other club on the verge of going out of existence I would be making my feelings felt to our club that it’s TIME TO STOP ,
we are football clubs , we all have our days in the sun and our bad times but our clubs are the heart of our city’s / towns with histories and links through the generations, if people like Morris, Gibson and the efL can’t respect that at least us fans of all club should 

Football is in a mess , Morris clearly tried to sail as close to the wind as he could re breaking / bending rules to gain advantage,no argument there the man’s a disgrace for what he’s done to OUR club , but let’s be right here Gibson himself has sailed very close to the wind with debt moving and other stuff , countless other clubs have been  and are doing it too ,
the thing is any right thinking REAL football fan at this point says STOP , if this was Morris or any other owner of Derby perusing boro or any other club on the verge of going out of existence I would be making my feelings felt to our club that it’s TIME TO STOP ,
we are football clubs , we all have our days in the sun and our bad times but our clubs are the heart of our city’s / towns with histories and links through the generations, if people like Morris, Gibson and the efL can’t respect that at least us fans of all club should 

Football is in a mess , Morris clearly tried to sail as close to the wind as he could re breaking / bending rules to gain advantage,no argument there the man’s a disgrace for what he’s done to OUR club , but let’s be right here Gibson himself has sailed very close to the wind with debt moving and other stuff , countless other clubs have been  and are doing it too ,
the thing is any right thinking REAL football fan at this point says STOP , if this was Morris or any other owner of Derby perusing boro or any other club on the verge of going out of existence I would be making my feelings felt to our club that it’s TIME TO STOP ,
we are football clubs , we all have our days in the sun and our bad times but our clubs are the heart of our city’s / towns with histories and links through the generations, if people like Morris, Gibson and the efL can’t respect that at least us fans of all club should 

Football is in a mess , Morris clearly tried to sail as close to the wind as he could re breaking / bending rules to gain advantage,no argument there the man’s a disgrace for what he’s done to OUR club , but let’s be right here Gibson himself has sailed very close to the wind with debt moving and other stuff , countless other clubs have been  and are doing it too ,
the thing is any right thinking REAL football fan at this point says STOP , if this was Morris or any other owner of Derby perusing boro or any other club on the verge of going out of existence I would be making my feelings felt to our club that it’s TIME TO STOP ,
we are football clubs , we all have our days in the sun and our bad times but our clubs are the heart of our city’s / towns with histories and links through the generations, if people like Morris, Gibson and the efL can’t respect that at least us fans of all club should 

Football is in a mess , Morris clearly tried to sail as close to the wind as he could re breaking / bending rules to gain advantage,no argument there the man’s a disgrace for what he’s done to OUR club , but let’s be right here Gibson himself has sailed very close to the wind with debt moving and other stuff , countless other clubs have been  and are doing it too ,
the thing is any right thinking REAL football fan at this point says STOP , if this was Morris or any other owner of Derby perusing boro or any other club on the verge of going out of existence I would be making my feelings felt to our club that it’s TIME TO STOP ,
we are football clubs , we all have our days in the sun and our bad times but our clubs are the heart of our city’s / towns with histories and links through the generations, if people like Morris, Gibson and the efL can’t respect that at least us fans of all club should 

Football is in a mess , Morris clearly tried to sail as close to the wind as he could re breaking / bending rules to gain advantage,no argument there the man’s a disgrace for what he’s done to OUR club , but let’s be right here Gibson himself has sailed very close to the wind with debt moving and other stuff , countless other clubs have been  and are doing it too ,
the thing is any right thinking REAL football fan at this point says STOP , if this was Morris or any other owner of Derby perusing boro or any other club on the verge of going out of existence I would be making my feelings felt to our club that it’s TIME TO STOP ,
we are football clubs , we all have our days in the sun and our bad times but our clubs are the heart of our city’s / towns with histories and links through the generations, if people like Morris, Gibson and the efL can’t respect that at least us fans of all club should 

I’ve been on here too long to carry on playing your games Roy. A PR rep spouting off for Ashley doesn’t make him a preferred bidder, it just makes him a potential bidder. 

Yeah, let’s really infuriate Appleby and the Binnie Bros while we have the chance.

I must admit I find it kind of reassuring that he is still interested, anyone else feel that way ?

From memory when Newcastle had them relegations under Ashley, didn't he spend silly money to get them straight back up promoted the following season? 
Think of the thousands of jobs he's saved over the years buying failed businesses. Granted, he made cuts however he made the businesses profitable. 
I'm 100% behind the bloke buying the club. He might not invest behind the scenes but I think we'll still have some of the best facilities around in the next 5 years. Clear the debts, stability. Yes please. 

If you’ve been to Tenerife he’s been to elevenerife 

Was Ashley ever officially noted as being in contact with the Administrator?