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    Oldben got a reaction from S8TY in New manager, who do you want?   
    https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-manager-rosenior-rooney-7255166
    Assistant manager Liam Rosenior has been installed as the early favourite by bookmaker Betfair. However, Rooney has suggested that if it was up to him, he would appoint a fresh face who have not been involved in all the recent upheaval within the club, which would rule out his number two.
    "Personally, I feel the club now needs to be led by someone with fresh energy and not affected by the events that have happened over the last 18 months," said Rooney in a statement.
    I agree with Rooney.
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    Oldben reacted to Ted McMinn Football Genius in New manager, who do you want?   
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    Oldben got a reaction from Premier ram in The Administration Thread   
    Hm ... so Q decided not to consider a bid from billionaire MA, with unquestionable football experience.
    They overlooked Applebys consortium, a man with years of experience of managing derby previously. A man who didn't previously leave derby in a huge amount of debt.
    Q has once again selected a person with zero experience of managing a football club.
    Mm was supposedly a derby fan, who was a local businessman with a lot of money. Yet he left the club in a horrible place.
    So now Q send in the clowns, I mean Clowes, is he similar person to MM. On paper it would appear, that way, at least in as much as he's meant to be a fan of derby and is wealthy local.
    Like mm he's supposedly a long term fan of derby county. 
    I can't understand Q reasoning here.
    Surely Appleby or MM would be better owners of derby, than a total unknown.
    Actually what am I saying, Q just have to put forward the highest bid as the preferred bidder.
    They don't really care if its in the best interests of the fans.
    I wonder if Q will face legal action from Appleby of MA on this, only time will tell.
     
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    Oldben reacted to Steve How Hard? in POLL: Clowes Developments / David Clowes   
    That makes sense as the previous owner of Pride Park Stadium turned out to be clueless. 
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    Oldben got a reaction from Indy in The Administration Thread   
    Hm ... so Q decided not to consider a bid from billionaire MA, with unquestionable football experience.
    They overlooked Applebys consortium, a man with years of experience of managing derby previously. A man who didn't previously leave derby in a huge amount of debt.
    Q has once again selected a person with zero experience of managing a football club.
    Mm was supposedly a derby fan, who was a local businessman with a lot of money. Yet he left the club in a horrible place.
    So now Q send in the clowns, I mean Clowes, is he similar person to MM. On paper it would appear, that way, at least in as much as he's meant to be a fan of derby and is wealthy local.
    Like mm he's supposedly a long term fan of derby county. 
    I can't understand Q reasoning here.
    Surely Appleby or MM would be better owners of derby, than a total unknown.
    Actually what am I saying, Q just have to put forward the highest bid as the preferred bidder.
    They don't really care if its in the best interests of the fans.
    I wonder if Q will face legal action from Appleby of MA on this, only time will tell.
     
  6. Haha
    Oldben got a reaction from Ramarena in The Administration Thread   
    Hm ... so Q decided not to consider a bid from billionaire MA, with unquestionable football experience.
    They overlooked Applebys consortium, a man with years of experience of managing derby previously. A man who didn't previously leave derby in a huge amount of debt.
    Q has once again selected a person with zero experience of managing a football club.
    Mm was supposedly a derby fan, who was a local businessman with a lot of money. Yet he left the club in a horrible place.
    So now Q send in the clowns, I mean Clowes, is he similar person to MM. On paper it would appear, that way, at least in as much as he's meant to be a fan of derby and is wealthy local.
    Like mm he's supposedly a long term fan of derby county. 
    I can't understand Q reasoning here.
    Surely Appleby or MM would be better owners of derby, than a total unknown.
    Actually what am I saying, Q just have to put forward the highest bid as the preferred bidder.
    They don't really care if its in the best interests of the fans.
    I wonder if Q will face legal action from Appleby of MA on this, only time will tell.
     
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    Oldben got a reaction from Carnero in The Administration Thread   
    Hm ... so Q decided not to consider a bid from billionaire MA, with unquestionable football experience.
    They overlooked Applebys consortium, a man with years of experience of managing derby previously. A man who didn't previously leave derby in a huge amount of debt.
    Q has once again selected a person with zero experience of managing a football club.
    Mm was supposedly a derby fan, who was a local businessman with a lot of money. Yet he left the club in a horrible place.
    So now Q send in the clowns, I mean Clowes, is he similar person to MM. On paper it would appear, that way, at least in as much as he's meant to be a fan of derby and is wealthy local.
    Like mm he's supposedly a long term fan of derby county. 
    I can't understand Q reasoning here.
    Surely Appleby or MM would be better owners of derby, than a total unknown.
    Actually what am I saying, Q just have to put forward the highest bid as the preferred bidder.
    They don't really care if its in the best interests of the fans.
    I wonder if Q will face legal action from Appleby of MA on this, only time will tell.
     
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    Oldben got a reaction from GB SPORTS in The Administration Thread   
    Hm ... so Q decided not to consider a bid from billionaire MA, with unquestionable football experience.
    They overlooked Applebys consortium, a man with years of experience of managing derby previously. A man who didn't previously leave derby in a huge amount of debt.
    Q has once again selected a person with zero experience of managing a football club.
    Mm was supposedly a derby fan, who was a local businessman with a lot of money. Yet he left the club in a horrible place.
    So now Q send in the clowns, I mean Clowes, is he similar person to MM. On paper it would appear, that way, at least in as much as he's meant to be a fan of derby and is wealthy local.
    Like mm he's supposedly a long term fan of derby county. 
    I can't understand Q reasoning here.
    Surely Appleby or MM would be better owners of derby, than a total unknown.
    Actually what am I saying, Q just have to put forward the highest bid as the preferred bidder.
    They don't really care if its in the best interests of the fans.
    I wonder if Q will face legal action from Appleby of MA on this, only time will tell.
     
  9. Haha
    Oldben got a reaction from Wolfie20 in The Administration Thread   
    Hm ... so Q decided not to consider a bid from billionaire MA, with unquestionable football experience.
    They overlooked Applebys consortium, a man with years of experience of managing derby previously. A man who didn't previously leave derby in a huge amount of debt.
    Q has once again selected a person with zero experience of managing a football club.
    Mm was supposedly a derby fan, who was a local businessman with a lot of money. Yet he left the club in a horrible place.
    So now Q send in the clowns, I mean Clowes, is he similar person to MM. On paper it would appear, that way, at least in as much as he's meant to be a fan of derby and is wealthy local.
    Like mm he's supposedly a long term fan of derby county. 
    I can't understand Q reasoning here.
    Surely Appleby or MM would be better owners of derby, than a total unknown.
    Actually what am I saying, Q just have to put forward the highest bid as the preferred bidder.
    They don't really care if its in the best interests of the fans.
    I wonder if Q will face legal action from Appleby of MA on this, only time will tell.
     
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    Oldben got a reaction from Dordogne-Ram in The Administration Thread   
    Hm ... so Q decided not to consider a bid from billionaire MA, with unquestionable football experience.
    They overlooked Applebys consortium, a man with years of experience of managing derby previously. A man who didn't previously leave derby in a huge amount of debt.
    Q has once again selected a person with zero experience of managing a football club.
    Mm was supposedly a derby fan, who was a local businessman with a lot of money. Yet he left the club in a horrible place.
    So now Q send in the clowns, I mean Clowes, is he similar person to MM. On paper it would appear, that way, at least in as much as he's meant to be a fan of derby and is wealthy local.
    Like mm he's supposedly a long term fan of derby county. 
    I can't understand Q reasoning here.
    Surely Appleby or MM would be better owners of derby, than a total unknown.
    Actually what am I saying, Q just have to put forward the highest bid as the preferred bidder.
    They don't really care if its in the best interests of the fans.
    I wonder if Q will face legal action from Appleby of MA on this, only time will tell.
     
  11. Haha
    Oldben got a reaction from i-Ram in The Administration Thread   
    Hm ... so Q decided not to consider a bid from billionaire MA, with unquestionable football experience.
    They overlooked Applebys consortium, a man with years of experience of managing derby previously. A man who didn't previously leave derby in a huge amount of debt.
    Q has once again selected a person with zero experience of managing a football club.
    Mm was supposedly a derby fan, who was a local businessman with a lot of money. Yet he left the club in a horrible place.
    So now Q send in the clowns, I mean Clowes, is he similar person to MM. On paper it would appear, that way, at least in as much as he's meant to be a fan of derby and is wealthy local.
    Like mm he's supposedly a long term fan of derby county. 
    I can't understand Q reasoning here.
    Surely Appleby or MM would be better owners of derby, than a total unknown.
    Actually what am I saying, Q just have to put forward the highest bid as the preferred bidder.
    They don't really care if its in the best interests of the fans.
    I wonder if Q will face legal action from Appleby of MA on this, only time will tell.
     
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    Oldben got a reaction from angieram in The Administration Thread   
    Hm ... so Q decided not to consider a bid from billionaire MA, with unquestionable football experience.
    They overlooked Applebys consortium, a man with years of experience of managing derby previously. A man who didn't previously leave derby in a huge amount of debt.
    Q has once again selected a person with zero experience of managing a football club.
    Mm was supposedly a derby fan, who was a local businessman with a lot of money. Yet he left the club in a horrible place.
    So now Q send in the clowns, I mean Clowes, is he similar person to MM. On paper it would appear, that way, at least in as much as he's meant to be a fan of derby and is wealthy local.
    Like mm he's supposedly a long term fan of derby county. 
    I can't understand Q reasoning here.
    Surely Appleby or MM would be better owners of derby, than a total unknown.
    Actually what am I saying, Q just have to put forward the highest bid as the preferred bidder.
    They don't really care if its in the best interests of the fans.
    I wonder if Q will face legal action from Appleby of MA on this, only time will tell.
     
  13. Haha
    Oldben got a reaction from Caerphilly Ram in The Administration Thread   
    Hm ... so Q decided not to consider a bid from billionaire MA, with unquestionable football experience.
    They overlooked Applebys consortium, a man with years of experience of managing derby previously. A man who didn't previously leave derby in a huge amount of debt.
    Q has once again selected a person with zero experience of managing a football club.
    Mm was supposedly a derby fan, who was a local businessman with a lot of money. Yet he left the club in a horrible place.
    So now Q send in the clowns, I mean Clowes, is he similar person to MM. On paper it would appear, that way, at least in as much as he's meant to be a fan of derby and is wealthy local.
    Like mm he's supposedly a long term fan of derby county. 
    I can't understand Q reasoning here.
    Surely Appleby or MM would be better owners of derby, than a total unknown.
    Actually what am I saying, Q just have to put forward the highest bid as the preferred bidder.
    They don't really care if its in the best interests of the fans.
    I wonder if Q will face legal action from Appleby of MA on this, only time will tell.
     
  14. Haha
    Oldben got a reaction from w8sey in The Administration Thread   
    Hm ... so Q decided not to consider a bid from billionaire MA, with unquestionable football experience.
    They overlooked Applebys consortium, a man with years of experience of managing derby previously. A man who didn't previously leave derby in a huge amount of debt.
    Q has once again selected a person with zero experience of managing a football club.
    Mm was supposedly a derby fan, who was a local businessman with a lot of money. Yet he left the club in a horrible place.
    So now Q send in the clowns, I mean Clowes, is he similar person to MM. On paper it would appear, that way, at least in as much as he's meant to be a fan of derby and is wealthy local.
    Like mm he's supposedly a long term fan of derby county. 
    I can't understand Q reasoning here.
    Surely Appleby or MM would be better owners of derby, than a total unknown.
    Actually what am I saying, Q just have to put forward the highest bid as the preferred bidder.
    They don't really care if its in the best interests of the fans.
    I wonder if Q will face legal action from Appleby of MA on this, only time will tell.
     
  15. Haha
    Oldben got a reaction from ThePrisoner in The Administration Thread   
    Hm ... so Q decided not to consider a bid from billionaire MA, with unquestionable football experience.
    They overlooked Applebys consortium, a man with years of experience of managing derby previously. A man who didn't previously leave derby in a huge amount of debt.
    Q has once again selected a person with zero experience of managing a football club.
    Mm was supposedly a derby fan, who was a local businessman with a lot of money. Yet he left the club in a horrible place.
    So now Q send in the clowns, I mean Clowes, is he similar person to MM. On paper it would appear, that way, at least in as much as he's meant to be a fan of derby and is wealthy local.
    Like mm he's supposedly a long term fan of derby county. 
    I can't understand Q reasoning here.
    Surely Appleby or MM would be better owners of derby, than a total unknown.
    Actually what am I saying, Q just have to put forward the highest bid as the preferred bidder.
    They don't really care if its in the best interests of the fans.
    I wonder if Q will face legal action from Appleby of MA on this, only time will tell.
     
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    Oldben reacted to Comrade 86 in The Administration Thread   
    Quick bit of research yields the following:
    The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where DAVID CLOWES holds a current appointment equals £30m, a combined total current assets value of £536m with a total current liabilities of £137m and a total current net worth of £346m. My guess would be that while David is the front man, the new owners will effectively be the Clowes family as a whole.
    For those already worrying that he / they have insufficient net worth to run a club like Derby, consider the relative wealth of Brentford owner Matthew Benham, a tiny fraction of the Clowes fortune. Consider too that Benham had to borrow £700k to fund the majority shareholding he took when he bought Brentford in 2012. Like Clowes, Benham too, is a lifelong fan of the club he has now established in the Premiership. Not all 'fan-owners' then are of Morris' ilk, so let's be balanced in our thinking. Some may say Benham is an outlier and an anomaly but the facts do not bear out this opinion. My view is rather that he simply adopted a model by which even clubs with modest fan bases can operate without losses AND enjoy success. For interest's sake, some net worth figures for a few Premiership club owners, correct as of 10/2021:
    Brentford – Matthew Benham (£3m)
    Norwich - Delia Smith and Michael Wynn-Jones (£23m)
    Burnley – Mike Garlick (£62m)
    Watford – Gino Pozzo (£93m)
    Leeds – Andrea Radrizzani (£344m)
    If Clowes is successful in his bid, then let's then give the man a chance to show that he intends to run the club in the way it could and should be run. There is absolutely no reason that DCFC can not break even within a few years and then turn a profit from then on. Look at the 30K +++ crowds that turned up towards the end of a post-Covid season with the team nigh on certain to be relegated. There are few clubs in the entire league that would top those numbers and the willingness of the fans to get behind the club, aligned to a measured and analytical approach to recruitment, can prove to be the cornerstones upon which a resurgent Derby County can be built. Our support was the absolute envy of the League last season, despite 3 years of ever gathering gloom and ill conceived hostility from outsiders who chose to hate before they thought. Let's not forget that. Equally, let's be respectful to and supportive of the players who ran through walls for us, even those who now choose move to pastures new. We should be, and I believe most are, grateful for what was a herculean effort from a team where a good few were earning a fraction of the wages they could command elsewhere and all played week in, week out under immense levels of pressure and uncertainty. They gave us all they had and IMO, they now owe us nothing.
    Let's also look out for each other; I've tried to remain calm and upbeat throughout the last couple of years as have most, but the strain of the last few months has understandably stretched nerves to breaking point. A lot of us have expressed anger and lashed out and I'm one of them, but the truth is that lashing out at those around the process, or worse still, at other fans, serves literally no purpose. I should know better.
    As we now look to the future then, akin to most fans, I suspect, I remain concerned that this may prove yet another false dawn, but this does have a rather different feel about it. We will know by this time next week whether the deal has legs, at which point we can hopefully once again begin to dream about a more positive future for the club, the fans and the wider community. In essence, the healing process can begin. Of course I am hugely biased in my view, but it's something I strongly believe; there is something quite unique and special about this club of ours, even in the darkest of times. They say that it's always darkest before the dawn and I'm sure I can see some narrow slithers of light ahead and this for the first time in several years. Perhaps a bright and beautiful new dawn will follow, perhaps something less than that, but let's try to be present, upbeat and supportive and not simply look to others. We have a huge role to play if we choose to accept it and these next few years could be some of the best in long while if we temper our expectations and rediscover the unity and passion we showed when times were hardest.
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    Oldben reacted to Ambitious in The Administration Thread   
    This is the important part of the article, definitely seems like he’s very serious if that’s legitimate - better than anything I expected! 

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    Oldben reacted to jono in The Administration Thread   
    Not quite. It’s not a case of the EFL’s involvement helping or not helping. DCFC are still a member of the EFL. The EFL should be helping it in these difficult circumstances, especially as the club has been sanctioned according to the rules over a prolonged period at the behest of other members. That part is done and dusted. We are now a member pure and simple. Our “trade association” is ( or effing well should be ) bound to assist members. That assistance cannot be muddied by past actions for which justice has already been served. And it cannot and should not be conditional on DCFC to act in a certain way in areas governed by commercial law rather than their rules.  The EFL well understand this but are desperate to get their fingers in the pie to justify their   position. It’s a power play and it makes me want to throw up. If they were honest even handed and open they should be falling over themselves saying “what do you need to sort this.”
     
     Not the usual “disappointment” and “if only” or whatever snivelling weasel words they chose. They have a man on the board who was disqualified as a company director for diverting funds in to his own bank account. They went for us because they were threatened by another member. They are weak, cowardly and employ persons of bad character. 
    It’s an organisation without morals or ethics. A fit a proper persons test ? And people like Peter Ridsdale is on the board ? 
    PS .. you may just detect from the above that I have nothing but contempt and suspicion whenever they say anything. 
     
    rant over (for now) 
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    Oldben got a reaction from RoyMac5 in The Administration Thread   
    Why are we set to play bundersliga teams.
    They will demotivate the players.
    It's just to get money for Q.
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    Oldben reacted to i-Ram in The Administration Thread   
    I have just emailed Rick Parry, who has confirmed that the EFL will be keen for us to play ideally with as little as 7 players. If we remain competitive though the EFL has the right to enforce a League rule change whereby games can be played against Derby as long as we have no fewer than 5 players on the pitch. They already have 71 member votes held in support of the motion.
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    Oldben reacted to PistoldPete in The Administration Thread   
    So we bringing Shackell out of retirement?
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    Oldben got a reaction from ThePrisoner in The Administration Thread   
    https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-efl-trevor-birch-7224615
    Q are at last fighting a deadline.
    I don't believe they have enough capital to start the season, can't show proof of funds to the efl.
    At last Q must declare a preferred bidder, and not wait longer.
    I'm surprised no one's thought of suing Q for emotional stress caused to the fans.
    My solicitor seems to think this is possible. 
     
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    Oldben got a reaction from GB SPORTS in The Administration Thread   
    https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-efl-trevor-birch-7224615
    Q are at last fighting a deadline.
    I don't believe they have enough capital to start the season, can't show proof of funds to the efl.
    At last Q must declare a preferred bidder, and not wait longer.
    I'm surprised no one's thought of suing Q for emotional stress caused to the fans.
    My solicitor seems to think this is possible. 
     
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    Oldben got a reaction from jimtastic56 in The Administration Thread   
    I can see why buchanan is disputing his contract extension, but for certain derby would have not allowed that level of talent to leave for free.
    Surely Q wouldn't be that incompetent!
     
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    Oldben got a reaction from Ramarena in The Administration Thread   
    https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-efl-trevor-birch-7224615
    Q are at last fighting a deadline.
    I don't believe they have enough capital to start the season, can't show proof of funds to the efl.
    At last Q must declare a preferred bidder, and not wait longer.
    I'm surprised no one's thought of suing Q for emotional stress caused to the fans.
    My solicitor seems to think this is possible. 
     
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