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Loughborough Ram

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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from cstand in Put a fork in football, it’s done!!   
    Young people have different expectations of the game.
    They love all of the talk of xg and other stats, they can reel off players from teams that I've never heard of abroad. They expect players to cheat, they accept the time it takes to come to a VAR decision, and they understand the need for players to concentrate on expanding their brand rather than committing to 50 games a season.
    So despite the fact that football is dying on its arse for some of us, we have to face facts that it's a completely different game to the one we grew up with, and consequently it doesnt need our support any more, it has a completely different breed of fan who think that it's fantastic.
    Whether we accept that or not is completely inconsequential, sadly.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from NellyRam in Cool the anti-Clowes rhetoric   
    I think that David Clowes should get a free pass.
    This is down to an opinion, not a factual decision or anything designed to circumvent the rules. If he is keeping the wolf from the door and he thinks that Warne is the man to take us forward then that is his perogative, as the only man to step forward and put his money where his mouth is.
    Disagree with his opinion if you want, but he should not be criticised for backing his judgement.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Grimbeard in Cool the anti-Clowes rhetoric   
    I think that David Clowes should get a free pass.
    This is down to an opinion, not a factual decision or anything designed to circumvent the rules. If he is keeping the wolf from the door and he thinks that Warne is the man to take us forward then that is his perogative, as the only man to step forward and put his money where his mouth is.
    Disagree with his opinion if you want, but he should not be criticised for backing his judgement.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from lrm14 in Can the moaners and wringers please stay at home   
    I think that the problem comes when the unhappy supporters do decide to stay at home.
    Dwindling gates under 20,000 will become reality unless something changes soon.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Charliegeorge1962 in Can the moaners and wringers please stay at home   
    I think that the problem comes when the unhappy supporters do decide to stay at home.
    Dwindling gates under 20,000 will become reality unless something changes soon.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Wsm-ram in Can the moaners and wringers please stay at home   
    I think that the problem comes when the unhappy supporters do decide to stay at home.
    Dwindling gates under 20,000 will become reality unless something changes soon.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Andicis in Can the moaners and wringers please stay at home   
    I think that the problem comes when the unhappy supporters do decide to stay at home.
    Dwindling gates under 20,000 will become reality unless something changes soon.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from BPV in Can the moaners and wringers please stay at home   
    I think that the problem comes when the unhappy supporters do decide to stay at home.
    Dwindling gates under 20,000 will become reality unless something changes soon.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Dcfcsr92 in Can the moaners and wringers please stay at home   
    I think that the problem comes when the unhappy supporters do decide to stay at home.
    Dwindling gates under 20,000 will become reality unless something changes soon.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Gee SCREAMER !! in Can the moaners and wringers please stay at home   
    I think that the problem comes when the unhappy supporters do decide to stay at home.
    Dwindling gates under 20,000 will become reality unless something changes soon.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Ramarena in Can the moaners and wringers please stay at home   
    I think that the problem comes when the unhappy supporters do decide to stay at home.
    Dwindling gates under 20,000 will become reality unless something changes soon.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Justa in Can the moaners and wringers please stay at home   
    I think that the problem comes when the unhappy supporters do decide to stay at home.
    Dwindling gates under 20,000 will become reality unless something changes soon.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Jimbo Ram in Can the moaners and wringers please stay at home   
    I think that the problem comes when the unhappy supporters do decide to stay at home.
    Dwindling gates under 20,000 will become reality unless something changes soon.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from DavesaRam in Can the moaners and wringers please stay at home   
    I think that the problem comes when the unhappy supporters do decide to stay at home.
    Dwindling gates under 20,000 will become reality unless something changes soon.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Wolfie in Anyone else had enough?   
    A presenter on the radio, seriously pointed out that Everton were doing OK and if the league was calculated on XG stats they would sit 4th in the Premier League.
    I think that this is enough to confine XG stats to the bin for ever.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Mucker1884 in Anyone else had enough?   
    I'm sorry but the enjoyment of football at my age, is watching a game, seeing goals, skill, tackles (make the most of them whilst they're still allowed),wingers going past full backs, towering headers at corners and brilliant teamwork, come on who thought that jumpers for goalposts was next?
    I accept im old fashioned but I hate the over analysis of games, the constant barrage of pointless statistics, and the clinical dissection of every move by a media, driven by what they can sell on the back of this information.
    Football in the seventies may have been of an inferior quality but in my opinion it was real, you felt part of it, the excitement and anticipation of actually seeing a game and everything that went with it. Now it just seems so dry and bereft of emotion unless you consider players rehersed celebrations as emotion, personally I hate them.
    XG may have a point for somebody but for me it absolutely does not.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from MadAmster in Anyone else had enough?   
    A presenter on the radio, seriously pointed out that Everton were doing OK and if the league was calculated on XG stats they would sit 4th in the Premier League.
    I think that this is enough to confine XG stats to the bin for ever.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Kathcairns in Anyone else had enough?   
    I'm sorry but the enjoyment of football at my age, is watching a game, seeing goals, skill, tackles (make the most of them whilst they're still allowed),wingers going past full backs, towering headers at corners and brilliant teamwork, come on who thought that jumpers for goalposts was next?
    I accept im old fashioned but I hate the over analysis of games, the constant barrage of pointless statistics, and the clinical dissection of every move by a media, driven by what they can sell on the back of this information.
    Football in the seventies may have been of an inferior quality but in my opinion it was real, you felt part of it, the excitement and anticipation of actually seeing a game and everything that went with it. Now it just seems so dry and bereft of emotion unless you consider players rehersed celebrations as emotion, personally I hate them.
    XG may have a point for somebody but for me it absolutely does not.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from LeedsCityRam in Anyone else had enough?   
    Initially when Warne was suggested I doubted that he was an upgrade on Rosenior, but so many people on here said I was bonkers I thought, "well I must be". So I felt it was reasonable to get behind him as he seemed a nice bloke, and his track record suggested, that I probably was bonkers.
    I've always thought that a managers style is dictated by the players at his disposal so I wasn't worried by his perceived style, as it was shaped during his time at a 'small' club, with a very modest budget. I thought,  give him time and resources and he may well change his ethos organically.
    During last season there were a few difficult days but far more positive ones, offering signs that, .given a fair opportunity by referees, and some reasonable fortune with injuries, we could easily have been in contention through the play offs.
    Going into the summer I thought that with some reasonable recruitment and a good pre season, we would have a great opportunity to fight for an automatic promotion spot, and certainly, recruitment was possibly better than I expected. We bought in players that barely anybody on here questioned, and the pre season games suggested that Warne finally had his team, his system and his philosophy. 
    We started the season with more than our fair share of bad luck on the injury side, but even taking that into consideration our start has been disappointing to say the least, so I'm afraid that I've crossed to the dark side, because I think that we have passed the point of no return, where I don't think he can turn this around. Results are faltering, supporters are showing their displeasure at the games and players are being drawn into direct arguments with the fans.
    I expected 2 things when Warne came in, a super fit squad, that pressed all over the field, and a clear message to the players of what is expected of them individually and as a team. 12 months into the job and I don't think we have either of those currently, so you have to ask, if not after 12 months then when?
    I wouldn't stand chanting outside the ground for him to go, because i actually still think hes a decent bloke, but I think that if we can afford it we have to take plunge. If we we don't the financial implications could be far greater than taking a hit now.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from LeedsCityRam in Warne Out Out   
    Quite simply, we can beat teams that try and win the game against us, but we struggle against teams that are happy to take a point. I guess Paul Warne has never had to deal with this as his experience is at Rotherham, a team that everybody tries to beat. Against Derby in league 1, a point is always seen as a good result, whether that's home or away.
    So unless he can work out a way to change this it's hard to see how he can turn results around.
    Maybe he's the wrong man at the wrong club, it happens.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Archied in Anyone else had enough?   
    I'm sorry but the enjoyment of football at my age, is watching a game, seeing goals, skill, tackles (make the most of them whilst they're still allowed),wingers going past full backs, towering headers at corners and brilliant teamwork, come on who thought that jumpers for goalposts was next?
    I accept im old fashioned but I hate the over analysis of games, the constant barrage of pointless statistics, and the clinical dissection of every move by a media, driven by what they can sell on the back of this information.
    Football in the seventies may have been of an inferior quality but in my opinion it was real, you felt part of it, the excitement and anticipation of actually seeing a game and everything that went with it. Now it just seems so dry and bereft of emotion unless you consider players rehersed celebrations as emotion, personally I hate them.
    XG may have a point for somebody but for me it absolutely does not.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Caerphilly Ram in Anyone else had enough?   
    I'm sorry but the enjoyment of football at my age, is watching a game, seeing goals, skill, tackles (make the most of them whilst they're still allowed),wingers going past full backs, towering headers at corners and brilliant teamwork, come on who thought that jumpers for goalposts was next?
    I accept im old fashioned but I hate the over analysis of games, the constant barrage of pointless statistics, and the clinical dissection of every move by a media, driven by what they can sell on the back of this information.
    Football in the seventies may have been of an inferior quality but in my opinion it was real, you felt part of it, the excitement and anticipation of actually seeing a game and everything that went with it. Now it just seems so dry and bereft of emotion unless you consider players rehersed celebrations as emotion, personally I hate them.
    XG may have a point for somebody but for me it absolutely does not.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Walkley Ram in Anyone else had enough?   
    A presenter on the radio, seriously pointed out that Everton were doing OK and if the league was calculated on XG stats they would sit 4th in the Premier League.
    I think that this is enough to confine XG stats to the bin for ever.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from Walkley Ram in Anyone else had enough?   
    Initially when Warne was suggested I doubted that he was an upgrade on Rosenior, but so many people on here said I was bonkers I thought, "well I must be". So I felt it was reasonable to get behind him as he seemed a nice bloke, and his track record suggested, that I probably was bonkers.
    I've always thought that a managers style is dictated by the players at his disposal so I wasn't worried by his perceived style, as it was shaped during his time at a 'small' club, with a very modest budget. I thought,  give him time and resources and he may well change his ethos organically.
    During last season there were a few difficult days but far more positive ones, offering signs that, .given a fair opportunity by referees, and some reasonable fortune with injuries, we could easily have been in contention through the play offs.
    Going into the summer I thought that with some reasonable recruitment and a good pre season, we would have a great opportunity to fight for an automatic promotion spot, and certainly, recruitment was possibly better than I expected. We bought in players that barely anybody on here questioned, and the pre season games suggested that Warne finally had his team, his system and his philosophy. 
    We started the season with more than our fair share of bad luck on the injury side, but even taking that into consideration our start has been disappointing to say the least, so I'm afraid that I've crossed to the dark side, because I think that we have passed the point of no return, where I don't think he can turn this around. Results are faltering, supporters are showing their displeasure at the games and players are being drawn into direct arguments with the fans.
    I expected 2 things when Warne came in, a super fit squad, that pressed all over the field, and a clear message to the players of what is expected of them individually and as a team. 12 months into the job and I don't think we have either of those currently, so you have to ask, if not after 12 months then when?
    I wouldn't stand chanting outside the ground for him to go, because i actually still think hes a decent bloke, but I think that if we can afford it we have to take plunge. If we we don't the financial implications could be far greater than taking a hit now.
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    Loughborough Ram got a reaction from The Scarlet Pimpernel in Anyone else had enough?   
    Initially when Warne was suggested I doubted that he was an upgrade on Rosenior, but so many people on here said I was bonkers I thought, "well I must be". So I felt it was reasonable to get behind him as he seemed a nice bloke, and his track record suggested, that I probably was bonkers.
    I've always thought that a managers style is dictated by the players at his disposal so I wasn't worried by his perceived style, as it was shaped during his time at a 'small' club, with a very modest budget. I thought,  give him time and resources and he may well change his ethos organically.
    During last season there were a few difficult days but far more positive ones, offering signs that, .given a fair opportunity by referees, and some reasonable fortune with injuries, we could easily have been in contention through the play offs.
    Going into the summer I thought that with some reasonable recruitment and a good pre season, we would have a great opportunity to fight for an automatic promotion spot, and certainly, recruitment was possibly better than I expected. We bought in players that barely anybody on here questioned, and the pre season games suggested that Warne finally had his team, his system and his philosophy. 
    We started the season with more than our fair share of bad luck on the injury side, but even taking that into consideration our start has been disappointing to say the least, so I'm afraid that I've crossed to the dark side, because I think that we have passed the point of no return, where I don't think he can turn this around. Results are faltering, supporters are showing their displeasure at the games and players are being drawn into direct arguments with the fans.
    I expected 2 things when Warne came in, a super fit squad, that pressed all over the field, and a clear message to the players of what is expected of them individually and as a team. 12 months into the job and I don't think we have either of those currently, so you have to ask, if not after 12 months then when?
    I wouldn't stand chanting outside the ground for him to go, because i actually still think hes a decent bloke, but I think that if we can afford it we have to take plunge. If we we don't the financial implications could be far greater than taking a hit now.
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