Dordogne-Ram

Absolutely no need to pick any fault with anything today. The perfect performance doesn't happen, especially not in our situation.
We played a top side at this level, matched them, bettered them, and deserved the points on a fantastic afternoon of thoroughly enjoyable football.
If the choice is stay up or get relegated, I'll choose staying up, but I can't say I'm all that bothered either way, so long as I get to be entertained like that. Commitment, energy, guts, skill, goals, strength...brilliant. 
Well done Derby, and well done Wayne and the staff.

Totally unexpected but brilliant result.
Was unsure about the formation throughout but delighted to see Liam Thompson in. Thought we'd get countered a lot with a flat back 4 & two full backs that attacking but it initially enabled us to play high up the pitch. Great finish from Knight for the goal & it didnt feel at all underserved.
Obviously the equaliser was ridiculous & its high time we abandon this wierd Davies to Roos pass from goal kicks...I don't understand where the advantage is when the opposition have 3 players waiting to pounce. Theres little chance of playing it around them & we had Kazim on early as an outlet to go long. I'm also fast losing patience with Roos & his errors...cruel reality is he just hasnt developed into a reliable CH keeper despite plenty of chances. His spill late on nearly cost us the game too. 
Bournemouth then grew in confidence & showed their class last 20 mins of the half & with their attacking outlets were always going to find joy against our back 4. Their second was entirely predictable st that stage & if Im honest, I didnt think we'd come back.
Massive credit then to the team for that second half display. Firstly, Lawrence really stepped up with a wonderful equaliser & then took reaponsibility for the penalty...brilliant play from Buchanan & Shinnie to draw the foul. Had almost forgotten what a Derby penalty looked like!
Great game management late on & real character to see it out. This is a group of players & a management team that are fighters and whatever off field humiliation we've had to suffer, they've done everything possible to put pride back into the shirt.
Love the defiance, love the intensity. COYR

Think this is all a bit playground foot stamping. I won’t be supporting.
He was a bad (inept) owner, but not a bad person to invalidate past good deeds.

Bear in mind Mel still owns the stadium and in consequence, whether we like it or not, we're still dependent on his goodwill to complete the successful transition to new ownership. If he's looking for an excuse to say duck it, this is exactly the kind of thing that could give him it....

Excellent pre-match interview with Wayne. He's very measured in everything he says, thoughtful, dignified and calm and quick to praise those he works with and you just know that the respect and loyalty is mutual. 
I was glad to hear him speak about building a better relationship with the EFL and he spoke of them respectfully. Regardless of how he really feels about our eye-watering debts and the appalling way our club has been left, he just chooses his words carefully and professionally.
I hope that in the future he cuts it as a premier manager, but for now I'm just so glad that he is with us. He gives me confidence to believe that all will eventually be well.
I really hope for everyone's sake that tomorrow will be a good day!! COYR

I actually think we had one at the end of last season when Waghorn stepped up and helped us stay in the Championship.
Without that, we could be in the mess we are in now, but a whole division lower.

Wycombe would have a stronger case suing Boro for our points deduction being delayed, as it was caused by Boro's intervention in the disciplinary process.
Shows what a nonsense the whole thing is.

I'm not really sure why DCFC never pursued QPR for compensation after the full scale of their FFPO breach was revealed. Both they and Leicester breached FFP rules that season. Leicester beat us home and away and QPR away and obviously at Wembley.
Then there's the case of our dear friends Notts Forest : placed under embargo in December 2015 for breaching FFP financial loss limits in season 2014/15, Forest spent big in the summer of 2014, including circa £6M on Britt Assombalonga who scored the equaliser in their 2-1 victory at PP in January 2015. Derby, if you recall, missed out on promotion by 1 point (we had a superior goal difference to the 3 teams tied above us with 1 point more). 
Let's not even think about Villa and their record-breaking wage bill.
If Middlesbrough and Wycombe fans feel hard done-by, don't come to us looking for sympathy or understanding.

It's a fact that the EFL didn't prescribe what form of Amortisation clubs should use. It's reasonable to believe that DCFC should have had their change of Amortisation method approved officially by the EFL prior to applying it. But it's also reasonable to believe that because the method to be used was open to interpretation, the consequences for DCFC should have been more proportionate than 18 months of embargo, more than 2 years of uncertainty, denial of pandemic relief funds, loss of potential take-over transactions, and ultimately Administration and potential liquidation. 
Some posters are concerned about the lack of balance on here, fair enough, but where's the balance in the reporting of the issues outside of here? 

I agree - it was to form an advantage. But that's not to say forming that advantage wasn't allowed... the rules are the rules and we did not break the rules other than to not properly disclose our method. I have seem no evidence that our policy contravenes FRS102 which is the charge that has resulted in this 9 point deduction and 3 point suspended deduction sanction. We've then been further punished for trying to prove our innocence.
If the EFL want a principles based regulation, they should implement a principle based regulation. They haven't. Its rules based, which they then flex and change based on their agenda. 

To be fair, the BBC article about this last deduction explicitly said we were inflating values above what we paid for them, so it’s no wonder people are thinking that.  There’s so much misinformation flying about that most people have no clue what’s going on, outside of a dedicated bunch of accounting nerds on here (and I just about include myself in that, in case anyone thinks I’m being disparaging).

So, the EFL can be flexible when it suits them?  Interesting.
Not so keen on upholding the principles of the regulations here!

Thank you - really appreciate your knowledge and expertise here!!

Their overspend is an automatic 12 point penalty if taken to the disciplinary panel, maybe then reduced to 11 because they've admitted their breach.
Going over £15m above the allowable losses means the -12 sticks. They went £54m over the allowable limits. You'd like to think if it did go to a panel they'd look very negatively at this and the massive scale of their breach would see further points deducted?
The EFL doing them a deal where it's 6 now with and 6 suspended really doesn't make any sense to me, it's scandalous. Basically cheat and admit it, comply and be let off with a kick to the shins. Don't actually cheat, defend yourself and get your legs sawn off.
The only thing I'm thinking now though, is surely their next set of accounts must also be in breach? That £54m isn't going anywhere, a £93m loss won't have been rectified in one season of cut-backs,  so they might end up facing fresh charges and further deductions next season?
Otherwise it's completely farcical, and it doesn't seem to matter whether you breach the limits by £15m or £150m.

Glad to hear the BBC has continued its tradition of impartiality and accuracy.
So who has been trying to deduct points from us for the last two years and only succeeded in the end by blackmailing us when we are under threat of extinction? And they have done no wrong?
 

“ And our next caller is from Bristol.........hold on, we’ve got a heavy breather on the line “.

“ And our first caller is Steve from Middlesbrough “.

Mel called out the EFL for agreeing to a crap TV deal - they didn't like that..... Mel questioned whether they were the best people to run the league - they didn't like that either..... Mel thought he was cleverer than the EFL by finding a number of legitimate ways through their poorly thought-through/written 'rules' - they didn't like that at all..... Mel put the club into admin thinking there was a valid case to argue against the 12 points - they hated that as it might have opened the floodgates for other clubs to follow..... Mel left the building - the EFL didn't care because by then the terms Derby County and Mel Morris were interchangeable in their eyes. The EFL did their very best to kill Derby County - they may still have succeeded.....we shall see.

Good for you, make sure you tell your Forest and Leicester mates so they don’t laugh at you. 

So then we have been Bullied into accepting this that much is clear ( the administrators) 
I believe we had a very good case in regards to the administration appeal and the EFL knew it and wanted it not to go ahead as other clubs would follow.
the EFL have threatened not to sort everything out and wanted to continue to strangle the club 
the EFL wanted to show others that they could strangle the sporting life out of a football club and enhance the lack of sporting integrity in the league - what complete poo show 

It is an opportunity to clear the decks and start again.  Is it really disproportionate compared to others?  I can't be bothered to look up the details but the reality is that you have to move on now.   Football is a mess.  Derby County will have their day again.  A few weeks ago fans were talking about liquidation.  Some Coventry City fans even set up their own club with the thought that CCFC may go bust but fans would need to follow a phoenix club....In came Coventry United which had several promotions up the non-league pyramid.  They play in red...Not a good choice in my opinion.  
Anyway, as I have said in the past, County fans are the biggest asset. Even those who fall by the wayside will be replaced by new fans.  This is happening at Coventry and i for one thought it was impossible given how bad the fans had been treated.  The only significant difference is that your club stays in Derby...Hope you have your own ground because it causes so many problems if you don't.  

I really don't understand why Jason Knight gets criticised so much by some Rams fans. He's still a youngster, but he is surely destined for a very decent career both at club level and at international level. His brief appearance surely showcases so much about what he is capable of, an incredible engine and work ethic, tenacious, and no little skill. 
What a great ball from Hendrick as well, another ex Ram who also had his fair share of critics. If Knight goes on to have the career that Hendrick has, I'm sure he will be well happy.
Well played Jason.

Why look at it from other clubs perspective? They are most likely only going off the same click bait stories as the fans of other clubs.
Was Paul Warne on the IDC listening to all of the facts and evidence? No, so his opinion is worth nothing more than mine or yours.
How about looking at it from our clubs perspective, we've been found guilty of nothing other than incorrect wording in our accounts, yet 20 months on, have been under constant embargo, denied access to a loan that all other clubs were given and basically been bullied into trying to help the EFL save face. 
MM shoulders the responsibility for our financial position but everything else that has gone with it is as a result of our regulator being completely inept.
 

What still amazes is after all this time is that the only thing we have been found guilty of is not putting proper notes in the accounts when we changed them which were approved by an accoutancy company, by the efl & more accountants - which we got a 100k fine for

My view entirely