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15 minutes ago, TuffLuff said:

Yes I thought the MM bit was most interesting, I do hope we do end up hearing a bit more from his side. Although the idea he was sceptical yet still willingness to work with Kirchner to agree a sale of his club seems a bit of a stretch to me. 

I’ve got to be honest I just don’t think it’s a great article though. There’s a pretty obvious ‘joining of dots’ here that isn’t addressed in that whether its the supporters groups, MM, Garry Cook, The EFL, the Administrators or Stretford , none of them take responsibility for what they nearly did to Derby County. No one goes ‘we got this wrong and we added to the months of limbo for Derby County fans who didn’t know whether they would have a club by the of the season’, and I think it borders on disgraceful from those who fell for Kirchner hook, line and sinker and they all seemingly pop up in this article without much criticism. It’s also poor that the article has no reference to the fans and what we were going through because of Kirchner’s actions

I also find it poor that supposedly Preston’s board are unsure about Kirchner but seemingly do not raise any alarm bells to the EFL. If you want to see a part of what’s wrong with football then I think that’s a good example. 

Like most football journalism today, it about scratches the surface on a subject but there is zero depth.

I think whilst safe to say many Derby fans dislike the EFL I can't see how they take the blame for believing Kirchner - see all the big US organisations that were also 'taken in'. I presume Kirchner showed the money but just forgot to say it wasn't his!

As for Preston, there were things written at the time, and talked about on here, but most were saying they had an anti-CK axe to grind because he backed out of their deal. They got the blame for 'increasing' the asking price and were judged accordingly.

18 minutes ago, Crewton said:

Cashin was pushed head-long into the goalkeeper and could be seen sitting looking dazed while the melee around Bradley was going on. You surely noticed all that though, since you were watching on RamsTV.

No I missed that. Lucky Cashin didn't retaliate then.

59 minutes ago, Crewton said:

Given that Cashin was wrestled to the ground in that same incident (a clear foul which got lost in the histrionics by the Northampton players), I bet exactly the same thing happened to Bradley. No wonder Monthe was smirking.

 

Bloody hell he must have given Big Daddy lessons! Lucky then that Cashin wasn't as stupid as Bradley.

56 minutes ago, angieram said:

Were you there watching? No, so you're just guessing. 

As @Crewton said, there was a lot of holding onto our players all through the game which the referee was ignoring. I did see that. 

Doesn't forgive what follows. 

Was I watching - yes I was. And the replays on RamsTV.

No surprise there was lots of holding going on, that is Bradley's M.O. As I said 'who started it and who finished it'?

35 minutes ago, angieram said:

I said on the matchday thread that Bradley went to ground immediately before the incident. I think that part of the statement is true.

It's what he did afterwards that is the question but fans at a different angle to me saw contact, so it must have happened in retaliation. 

But we've seen him 'go to ground' in the opposition box before, there's a picture on a thread somewhere of him wrestling with a player and they fall over. Who starts it who finishes it? 

Bradley fell over I bet he was doing some awful attempt at s**thousing. He's just all round poor.

Warne said: "Sonny said, 'He (Monthe) was in my face and he pulled me down' and that he didn't do anything.

"I have to believe and trust my player until I see anything different. It's disappointing because it magnifies the poor day at the office we had. Six games left and you are missing three of those, so it's a massive blow. He was pretty confident he hadn't done anything wrong. I could see the lads all getting frustrated, and when it is like that you can't touch anyone.

"It's all right for us because we're on the side of the pitch, but the adrenaline is pumping as a player, your heart is going at 180bpm and you want to score a goal. It's easy to say don't get emotional, but it's difficult."

Surely Warne will take the unexpected opportunity to go with a four at the back, if so I think we'll get 2nd place. #COYR

Adam Thorley is back at Derby

Derby County's academy has been strengthened with the return of the highly-rated Adam Thorley. Thorley was poached by Chelsea back in 2021 when he became their under-15s coach.

But it is understood he has now returned to Derby where he has been appointed head of technical development for under-nines to under-16s. Thorley initially started his career at Derby having joined the club in 2010, but had a short stint at Wolves where he was YDP coach for eight months.

He was Derby's under-18s coach and professional development phase coach before leaving for Premier League Chelsea. During his time at Pride Park, the club cultivated a number of players to come through the academy including the likes of Kaide Gordon (Liverpool) and Liam Delap (Manchester City).

Robinson on duty with England

Young Derby County defender Keilen Robinson has been on England duty for the under-19s, coming on as a substitute in their 1-1 draw against Morocco last Thursday.

An own-goal just before half-time had given Morocco the lead at the Stade Moulay Hassan in Rabat before Chelsea defender Billy Gee equalised with ten minutes remaining.

Also included in the side which drew 1-1 was former Derby academy prospect Omari Kellyman, who left the club to join Aston Villa.

2 minutes ago, MadAmster said:

Did I say that? Merely pointing out that the current injury situation plus "whatever happened to Fornah" means the skipper is nailed on to start.

I thought Fornah was injured (his back).

1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said:

Or it could be that having a squad made up of bargain basement freebies and players in the twilight's of their careers, due to the financial constraints we were under, means that we are prone to injuries which in turn necessitate changes in formation and tactics.

Of course when they work it is because Warne is lucky and when it doesn't work it is because Warne is a limited tactically naive PE teacher.

Think I've got that right. 

FIFY

6 minutes ago, Srg said:

I'd pick Fornah with a broken back over Hourihane.

Hourihane is one of the few in the squad that organises the team and gets any real style of play from them. That's why he keeps getting picked imo. And Fornah is not much other than a bit of running around.

Just now, MadAmster said:

With Bird not ready, Adams apparently injured, whatever happened to Fornah, Hourihane looks nailed on to start.

You'd pick Fornah over Hourihane? 

23 minutes ago, Crewton said:

The Ref had the Red Card in his hand well before Bradley starts to walk off as you can see from this still : Bradley is looking at the Lino, so I assume he had his flag raised. The Ref changed his initial decision from just a FK to a red card and a FK that I assume the Lino alerted the Ref over the Comms. How often do you see a Ref pull out a Red Card before even getting near the offender? It must have been a proper Glasgow Kiss.

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Couple of posters on here saw it, ask them.

18 minutes ago, Crewton said:

Yeah, I know you did 😅

I was wrong. So what, I didn't sign him, our manager did and takes every opportunity to shoe-horn him into the team.

1 minute ago, jimtastic56 said:

I was sat in the car listening to radio Derby before attending the Bolton home game and Dominic said that “ Sonny Bradley has been our Rock all season”.  Just shows how opinions can differ. 

Perhaps someone better tell him Sonny Bradley is old and white? 😄

1 hour ago, Ram-Alf said:

I've watched the RamsTV highlights, There's a slight coming together as the ball is cleared...but nowt to see here, Ref pointing for a foul then just a melee of players, With the victim on the ground with both hands on his face, Job done and sent off as the victim takes a good look to see if his 1st stage performance went well 🙄

So was there contact 🤷‍♂️ did the victim play the victim 👍 I'm getting very cynical as the years roll by, It's a win at all cost on the field of play now which sends me further away from the professional game. 

Bradley hasn't shown himself to be the brightest apple in the barrel in the opponents penalty area though has he. All the stupid wrestling he gets involved in. But even so moving your head towards another player is enough to get you sent off nowadays. Edit: just seen rammieib's post - not much point in appealing then!

1 hour ago, Crewton said:

It wasn't only Warne who thought he'd be a great signing

I did too, but unlike Warne I didn't have detailed information on him, and he wouldn't reply to my WhatsApp!

DET says:

"Bradley relying on video to stop him being hit in the pocket

...A terrible day at the office was epitomised by the red card that Sonny Bradley picked up in stoppage time and he really can have no complaints. Warne said afterward that the centre-back had protested his innocence, but he is now staring at a three-match ban at a critical time of the season.

Unless there is strong video evidence that can categorically show he didn't aim a headbutt at Manny Monthe, then he will be missing a key part of the run-in. He won't be able to face Blackpool, Portsmouth or Wycombe, three critical fixtures that are the hardest of the last six games of the campaign.

It was a needless, stupid and reckless altercation which served absolutely no purpose other than to help Northampton secure all three points. And it now has major ramifications for the team given Warne is now likely to have to switch from a three at the back given there are no other fit centre-backs available.

Warne said he will review the incident because he had not seen it again before he came out to do his post-match duties. But if it does turn out that Bradley has no defence, then Warne said a fine will be coming his way. The first thing Bradley should do is apologise to his team-mates. Yes, it's an emotionally charged game, yes there was a lot at stake, but he's let himself down at a time when Derby are virtually down to bare bones as it is."

5 minutes ago, Foreveram said:

So which part of “ they haven’t done enough to convince Warne” don’t you understand.

Warne was standing a few feet away.

Exactly. Which part of 'a tricky question for them to answer' didn't you get?! 😄 

Just now, Terry Hennessy said:

Did anybody actually see the incident that led to his red card ???

The ref?

1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

A question at the fans forum was raised, asking Buxton and Hale if they think the U18/21 players ahold have been given more of an opportunity this season. The response being "they haven't done enough to convince Warne". They also stated Thomspon not being a top performer in the U21s, but stepping up seamlessly under Rooney.

None have played more than Robinson, who has only got 90 minutes vs a Wolves U21 side and hasn't played in any other game. The only player to feature in the League (Brown) has only got 13 minutes, I would be extremely surprised to see someone getting a chance this season.

Take that Wolves U21 game away, then you really see how willing Warne is to using them: Brown (30 mins), Radcliffe (11 mins) Weston (6 mins) and Fapetu (2 mins). It's pathetic.

They could have had a meaningful amount of minutes earlier in the season, even against the likes of Crewe or Bradford in Cup competitions, or when 2 goals up against Carlisle, Leyton Orient, and Bristol Rovers. If they were, we'd now have a better idea of whether they could step in for a couple of games. Even if they weren't ready, using them in more games would have helped keep our older players fresher, and potentially injury free.

It's a tricky question for them to answer that don't you think? Say well actually we expected some of them to get more minutes in the Cup games and then look over to where Warne is sat? 😄

10 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said:

Wildsmith is coming in for criticism after  the Cobblers game . His distribution the main cause . But is he under orders from the manager? I hope he doesn’t become a “Scapegoat” because he is leaving . Especially after his match winning performance V Bolton.

👏 His distribution was better than recently. But he's not going to play the ball along the back four with any speed, Bradley isn't able to do much at pace. And just like our 'measured' throw-ins, we take our time. No good in pointing out what the opposition do when we do the same time-wasting.

31 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

I agree, it's ridiculous that football players are being asked to run during a football match, what is Warne thinking?

 

He wasn't.

14 minutes ago, Finch said:

Bradley reincarnation of ClaudeDavies. Possibly worse. 

Yeah but without the actual reincarnation.